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Anyone buying into this game would be better taking their money and throwing it oot the windae :roll: :roll: :roll:


What a bunch of desperadoes . . . .


Ok Skull, I am listening, tell me the business plan, how are more plates on the road going to improve the holders situation.... I await with interest...


By "the holders situation" I take it you mean the driver that can now put on his own single shifted vehicle which can also double as his private car?

You can run a new E7 for less than £200 a week, on the street, all in, financed over 4-5 years. (Oh and btw, Jim put the financial breakdown on fasties. Bob Dewar did a similar breakdown which came up with much the same costs) Of course station permits and a radio position all adds to the costs but you must remember that this is a new vehicle which doubles as your Private Car.

You could of course buy a much cheaper vehicle and reduce your costs even further while working the busy nights for yourself. David Downie, an “owner” who works the Haymarket rank has spent less than 30K in capital out lay in over 20 years, service driving taxis. His latest cab is a 5K TTT metro. There are others.

More plates doesn't mean an increase in service to the customer. You need more drivers to do that. Some but not all, double shifted vehicles would simply become single shifted. A lot of guys on fair rentals would keep working for their current owners.

It's just the same guys doing the same job controlling their own costs while working around their family commitments.

The only one to lose out is the greedy bas*ard with the high overheads, charging the big rental, massaging their big illusion of “businessman”. :wink:


Ok £200 per week for E7
Ok Permits
Ok Radio-£100 pweek approx
Lets take the airport permit just for starters £30.00 pm =£7.50 pweek
Insurance ( new with no previous no claims history) approx £25 pweek

Total now before you have done any work is approx £332.50 per week divided by say 6 days = £55.41 per day just for the above. Then you have diesiel say a conservative figure of £18 per day 10 hr shift say = £73.41 per day before you earn anything.
Unless you rent the car out on another shift you are not better off at all.

I am talking day shift for the above scenario..

Renting £40-£45 per day + £18 diesiel = £63 per day-- No ins, No radio fees, No Permit fees, No repair costs, No worry.

You can only work so many hours if you single shift it therefore you would cherry pick when to work ie the busy times, therefore under your plan it would be this scenario--busy times too many cars out not enough work, the not so busy times, hardly any cars out people complaining that they cannot get cabs because everybody is working the supposed busy times. Under the current system all times are covered by cars, therefore you need to put a stronger argument down on paper to convince anybody that your plan is robust, I just do not see the positives in what you are saying.

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Jinky wrote:
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Anyone buying into this game would be better taking their money and throwing it oot the windae :roll: :roll: :roll:


What a bunch of desperadoes . . . .


Ok Skull, I am listening, tell me the business plan, how are more plates on the road going to improve the holders situation.... I await with interest...


By "the holders situation" I take it you mean the driver that can now put on his own single shifted vehicle which can also double as his private car?

You can run a new E7 for less than £200 a week, on the street, all in, financed over 4-5 years. (Oh and btw, Jim put the financial breakdown on fasties. Bob Dewar did a similar breakdown which came up with much the same costs) Of course station permits and a radio position all adds to the costs but you must remember that this is a new vehicle which doubles as your Private Car.

You could of course buy a much cheaper vehicle and reduce your costs even further while working the busy nights for yourself. David Downie, an “owner” who works the Haymarket rank has spent less than 30K in capital out lay in over 20 years, service driving taxis. His latest cab is a 5K TTT metro. There are others.

More plates doesn't mean an increase in service to the customer. You need more drivers to do that. Some but not all, double shifted vehicles would simply become single shifted. A lot of guys on fair rentals would keep working for their current owners.

It's just the same guys doing the same job controlling their own costs while working around their family commitments.

The only one to lose out is the greedy bas*ard with the high overheads, charging the big rental, massaging their big illusion of “businessman”. :wink:


Ok £200 per week for E7
Ok Permits
Ok Radio-£100 pweek approx
Lets take the airport permit just for starters £30.00 pm =£7.50 pweek
Insurance ( new with no previous no claims history) approx £25 pweek

Total now before you have done any work is approx £332.50 per week divided by say 6 days = £55.41 per day just for the above. Then you have diesiel say a conservative figure of £18 per day 10 hr shift say = £73.41 per day before you earn anything.
Unless you rent the car out on another shift you are not better off at all.

I am talking day shift for the above scenario..

Renting £40-£45 per day + £18 diesiel = £63 per day-- No ins, No radio fees, No Permit fees, No repair costs, No worry.

You can only work so many hours if you single shift it therefore you would cherry pick when to work ie the busy times, therefore under your plan it would be this scenario--busy times too many cars out not enough work, the not so busy times, hardly any cars out people complaining that they cannot get cabs because everybody is working the supposed busy times. Under the current system all times are covered by cars, therefore you need to put a stronger argument down on paper to convince anybody that your plan is robust, I just do not see the positives in what you are saying.


Are you a complete fecking idiot, Jinky?

Read the post again without taking what I said out of context and setting the pretext to suite your argument.

You asked the question and I answered it. The E7 taxi was a worse case scenario with the possibility of make a saving as it doubles as your private car. The added permits and radio position are down to your own personal choice, cost of living and the hours you need to work.


Insurance was included in the £200 a week, scenario along with repairs and maintenance.

Oh and btw, you've completely ignored Davy Downie, and his 5K TTT metro. Davy only works Haymarket.

Isn't it funny how you guys always put your own slant on things to protect your vested interests.

Get a life Jinky, you own feck all . . . .


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Oh and btw, the answer to the rest of your pash is simple. The owners at the present moment cherry pick what they want to work. The driver works only what's available. :roll:

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Oh and btw, the answer to the rest of your pash is simple. The owners at the present moment cherry pick what they want to work. The driver works only what's available. :roll:


you mean like in a deregulated area then :lol:

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Oh and btw, the answer to the rest of your pash is simple. The owners at the present moment cherry picks what they want to work. The driver works only what's available. :roll:


you mean like in a deregulated area then :lol:

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No. Restricted. :roll:

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Skull wrote:
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Oh and btw, the answer to the rest of your pash is simple. The owners at the present moment cherry picks what they want to work. The driver works only what's available. :roll:


you mean like in a deregulated area then :lol:

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No. Restricted. :roll:


ahh....you dont know what its like in deregulationland.....a little like some others who want it.

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captain cab wrote:
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Oh and btw, the answer to the rest of your pash is simple. The owners at the present moment cherry picks what they want to work. The driver works only what's available. :roll:


you mean like in a deregulated area then :lol:

CC




No. Restricted. :roll:


ahh....you dont know what its like in deregulationland.....a little like some others who want it.

CC


I don't need to know. Edinburgh is regulated and de-restriction won't change a thing in that respect :roll:

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captain cab wrote:
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Oh and btw, the answer to the rest of your pash is simple. The owners at the present moment cherry picks what they want to work. The driver works only what's available. :roll:


you mean like in a deregulated area then :lol:

CC




No. Restricted. :roll:


ahh....you dont know what its like in deregulationland.....a little like some others who want it.

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Try hell on earth as a good description but that's only my opinion :D

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Oh and btw, the answer to the rest of your pash is simple. The owners at the present moment cherry picks what they want to work. The driver works only what's available. :roll:


you mean like in a deregulated area then :lol:

CC




No. Restricted. :roll:


ahh....you dont know what its like in deregulationland.....a little like some others who want it.

CC


Try hell on earth as a good description but that's only my opinion :D


Well perhaps you should lobby your cooncillor of more quality controls?

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Well perhaps you should lobby your cooncillor of more quality controls?


Yeah....like newer vehicle......which will possibly mean licensing only vehicles that havent been developed yet :lol:

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Well perhaps you should lobby your cooncillor of more quality controls?


Yeah....like newer vehicle......which will possibly mean licensing only vehicles that havent been developed yet :lol:

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Nothing older than 3 years on first reg. 100% wav. not sure of the age limit but there probably is one

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Jinky wrote:
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Anyone buying into this game would be better taking their money and throwing it oot the windae :roll: :roll: :roll:


What a bunch of desperadoes . . . .


Ok Skull, I am listening, tell me the business plan, how are more plates on the road going to improve the holders situation.... I await with interest...


By "the holders situation" I take it you mean the driver that can now put on his own single shifted vehicle which can also double as his private car?

You can run a new E7 for less than £200 a week, on the street, all in, financed over 4-5 years. (Oh and btw, Jim put the financial breakdown on fasties. Bob Dewar did a similar breakdown which came up with much the same costs) Of course station permits and a radio position all adds to the costs but you must remember that this is a new vehicle which doubles as your Private Car.

You could of course buy a much cheaper vehicle and reduce your costs even further while working the busy nights for yourself. David Downie, an “owner” who works the Haymarket rank has spent less than 30K in capital out lay in over 20 years, service driving taxis. His latest cab is a 5K TTT metro. There are others.

More plates doesn't mean an increase in service to the customer. You need more drivers to do that. Some but not all, double shifted vehicles would simply become single shifted. A lot of guys on fair rentals would keep working for their current owners.

It's just the same guys doing the same job controlling their own costs while working around their family commitments.

The only one to lose out is the greedy bas*ard with the high overheads, charging the big rental, massaging their big illusion of “businessman”. :wink:


Ok £200 per week for E7
Ok Permits
Ok Radio-£100 pweek approx
Lets take the airport permit just for starters £30.00 pm =£7.50 pweek
Insurance ( new with no previous no claims history) approx £25 pweek

Total now before you have done any work is approx £332.50 per week divided by say 6 days = £55.41 per day just for the above. Then you have diesiel say a conservative figure of £18 per day 10 hr shift say = £73.41 per day before you earn anything.
Unless you rent the car out on another shift you are not better off at all.

I am talking day shift for the above scenario..

Renting £40-£45 per day + £18 diesiel = £63 per day-- No ins, No radio fees, No Permit fees, No repair costs, No worry.

You can only work so many hours if you single shift it therefore you would cherry pick when to work ie the busy times, therefore under your plan it would be this scenario--busy times too many cars out not enough work, the not so busy times, hardly any cars out people complaining that they cannot get cabs because everybody is working the supposed busy times. Under the current system all times are covered by cars, therefore you need to put a stronger argument down on paper to convince anybody that your plan is robust, I just do not see the positives in what you are saying.



Are you a complete fecking idiot, Jinky?

Read the post again without taking what I said out of context and setting the pretext to suite your argument.

You asked the question and I answered it. The E7 taxi was a worse case scenario with the possibility of make a saving as it doubles as your private car. The added permits and radio position are down to your own personal choice, cost of living and the hours you need to work.


Insurance was included in the £200 a week, scenario along with repairs and maintenance.

Oh and btw, you've completely ignored Davy Downie, and his 5K TTT metro. Davy only works Haymarket.

Isn't it funny how you guys always put your own slant on things to protect your vested interests.

Get a life Jinky, you own feck all . . . .


Oh and btw, the answer to the rest of your pash is simple. The owners at the present moment cherry pick what they want to work. The driver works only what's available.
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Don't worry Jink, there's always dug :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I have never met anybody else who wants what you want its all you ....your despised within the taxi trade which you say that doesnt bother you..your just a jealous wee man thats got feck all in life numbskull... now i have to go as i am just going out in my cab thats sitting at my bungalow and doubles as my own private.. :D


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captain cab wrote:
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captain cab wrote:
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Oh and btw, the answer to the rest of your pash is simple. The owners at the present moment cherry picks what they want to work. The driver works only what's available. :roll:


you mean like in a deregulated area then :lol:

CC




No. Restricted. :roll:


ahh....you dont know what its like in deregulationland.....a little like some others who want it.

CC

well im glad youre feeling the pinch mon capitan.
i have no sympathy for you.
thing is its like that for drivers in regulationland.
the difference is youve been brought down to the level you prefered everyone else to be on when you were the big taxi baron from the wee small toon.
eh wayne :lol:


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well im glad youre feeling the pinch mon capitan.
i have no sympathy for you.
thing is its like that for drivers in regulationland.
the difference is youve been brought down to the level you prefered everyone else to be on when you were the big taxi baron from the wee small toon.
eh wayne :lol:


Not as glad as I will be if you ever get a rare incurable disease.

The point being.....you havent a f*cking clue.

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