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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:25 am 
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does anyone know if a date has been set yet when all hackney carriage have to wheelchair accesible


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does anyone know if a date has been set yet when all hackney carriage have to wheelchair accesible

From what I'm hearing they are talking about mixed fleets, so that not only do the wheelchair passengers have a service, but also the non-wheelchair disabled that need saloon vehicle taxis are able to use them too.

How they will decide which proprietor licenses which type of vehicle will be fun to watch though.

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ok cheers only heard 2020 mentioned the other day did not know if there was any truth in it


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ok cheers only heard 2020 mentioned the other day did not know if there was any truth in it


Thats great news...I'l be just short of retirement by then so I can save up for a walking stick and get myself some training on how to limp properly, be put on incapacity and disability benefits...then Il be sorted with a motobilty car like they get now ....gosh..everythings going to be just peachy.. :D


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does anyone know if a date has been set yet when all hackney carriage have to wheelchair accesible

Soon in many of the areas that are classed as urban, in my considered opinion.

An announcement is due very soon, possibly next week at the NTA conference in Florida. :wink:

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does anyone know if a date has been set yet when all hackney carriage have to wheelchair accesible

Soon in many of the areas that are classed as urban, in my considered opinion.

An announcement is due very soon, possibly next week at the NTA conference in Florida. :wink:

I always knew the NTA was a monied organisation with the Captain & Mr T so well healed that they can just pop over to Florida for conference!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Correct me if im wrong (im sure you will and i am) but when DISDIS came in (thank you Mr Darling) wasnt it only 25% of a fleet needed to be a WAV?


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Correct me if im wrong (im sure you will and i am) but when DISDIS came in (thank you Mr Darling) wasnt it only 25% of a fleet needed to be a WAV?

Each council / LA decide for their own area.

I don't know where the 25% has come from, but in Brum it's 100% WAVs, but PH are not obliged to follow, although to give them credit some of the top PH companies here do have a few WAVs on their fleet.

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
Correct me if im wrong (im sure you will and i am) but when DISDIS came in (thank you Mr Darling) wasnt it only 25% of a fleet needed to be a WAV?

Each council / LA decide for their own area.

I don't know where the 25% has come from, but in Brum it's 100% WAVs, but PH are not obliged to follow, although to give them credit some of the top PH companies here do have a few WAVs on their fleet.

I think it will be horses for courses, and rural areas should be ok, but urban areas with a large elderly population and a large transport interchange will struggle to stay mixed fleet.

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Well I must have been reading different documents to everyone else.... it is my understanding that the Government want a hundred percent WAV fleet.... and that the main reason for this is the problems they are having in getting areas that have saloon fleets to change to WAF voluntary..... which are not cities by the way.... councils will be able to apply for a exemption... but this does not mean they will get one .... and their arguments will have to be impressive..... :P

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Well I must have been reading different documents to everyone else.... it is my understanding that the Government want a hundred percent WAV fleet.[/
b]... and that the main reason for this is the problems they are having in getting areas that have saloon fleets to change to WAF [b]voluntary..... which are not cities by the way.... councils will be able to apply for a exemption... but this does not mean they will get one .... and their arguments will have to be impressive..... :P


So that in 99% of rural areas saloons would become PH, leaving next to no hacks available, due to the cost of the dam things, or to make sure that the 85% of the walking disabled population cannot obtain a cab from a rank :roll:


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Well I must have been reading different documents to everyone else.... it is my understanding that the Government want a hundred percent WAV fleet.[/
b]... and that the main reason for this is the problems they are having in getting areas that have saloon fleets to change to WAF [b]voluntary..... which are not cities by the way.... councils will be able to apply for a exemption... but this does not mean they will get one .... and their arguments will have to be impressive..... :P


So that in 99% of rural areas saloons would become PH, leaving next to no hacks available, due to the cost of the dam things, or to make sure that the 85% of the walking disabled population cannot obtain a cab from a rank :roll:


The Equality bill will repeal the DDA.

The equality bill will require all those offering a service to have WAV's......including PH.

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Well I must have been reading different documents to everyone else.... it is my understanding that the Government want a hundred percent WAV fleet.[/
b]... and that the main reason for this is the problems they are having in getting areas that have saloon fleets to change to WAF [b]voluntary..... which are not cities by the way.... councils will be able to apply for a exemption... but this does not mean they will get one .... and their arguments will have to be impressive..... :P

So that in 99% of rural areas saloons would become PH, leaving next to no hacks available, due to the cost of the dam things, or to make sure that the 85% of the walking disabled population cannot obtain a cab from a rank :roll:

The Equality bill will repeal the DDA.

The equality bill will require all those offering a service to have WAV's......including PH.

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captain cab wrote:
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MR T wrote:
Well I must have been reading different documents to everyone else.... it is my understanding that the Government want a hundred percent WAV fleet.[/
b]... and that the main reason for this is the problems they are having in getting areas that have saloon fleets to change to WAF [b]voluntary..... which are not cities by the way.... councils will be able to apply for a exemption... but this does not mean they will get one .... and their arguments will have to be impressive..... :P


So that in 99% of rural areas saloons would become PH, leaving next to no hacks available, due to the cost of the dam things, or to make sure that the 85% of the walking disabled population cannot obtain a cab from a rank :roll:




The Equality bill will repeal the DDA.

The equality bill will require all those offering a service to have WAV's......including PH.

CC



wait...Another year another Government and another set of Ideals.

The nulab quangos and groups that hold court now will be history soon...matters not if they be DDA or equality groups...things will eventually get back to a slightly more commonsense approach under the tories, if not then many more will be on the dole in the governments quest for a utopian equality dream that will only serve to cater for the few while denying and financially crippling the majority that has to pay for it.

We all want to help the genuine disabled but not at any expense...that labour habit of equality through excessive practices and heedless of cost mindset just has to come to an end or the advantages will be outweighed by the disadvantages of there being less WAV vehicles in some areas instead of more due to drivers leaving the trade.


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Well I must have been reading different documents to everyone else.... it is my understanding that the Government want a hundred percent WAV fleet.[/
b]... and that the main reason for this is the problems they are having in getting areas that have saloon fleets to change to WAF [b]voluntary..... which are not cities by the way.... councils will be able to apply for a exemption... but this does not mean they will get one .... and their arguments will have to be impressive..... :P

So that in 99% of rural areas saloons would become PH, leaving next to no hacks available, due to the cost of the dam things, or to make sure that the 85% of the walking disabled population cannot obtain a cab from a rank :roll:

They're not predicting that the desertion from HC to PH in rural areas will be that high Mr Skippy41 ..... more like 80 - 90%.

But then over the last couple of years in Brum, we've been saying something very similar ..... that our council don't really want Hackneys around, because we are really hard work for the LO, whereas PH are quite simple.

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