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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:40 am 
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Location: Plymouth, i think, i'll just check the A to Z!
local news, Front page headline again:

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ANGRY TAXI BOSSES IN OMBUDSMAN THREAT
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19:22 - 28 October 2004
Taxi bosses have threatened to call on the Local Government Ombudsman and the District Auditor to help settle a dispute over council budgets. Operators and elected driver representatives yesterday attended a meeting intended to finalise the council's private hire and hackney carriage budget from next April.

But the group voted to conclude the debate prematurely, saying the council's proposed budget figures had not been presented to them until the day of the meeting.

Operators also feel aggrieved that the meeting, chaired by licensing officer George Curness, was not attended by Councillor Sue Dann, the council's portfolio-holder for transport.

John Preece, managing director of city firm Taxifast, called the meeting 'an insult to the taxi trade'.

He said: "The meeting should have been chaired by the head of department and the portfolio-holder should have been there too.

"We got the budget figures just five minutes before the meeting, so we looked on it as a bit of a pantomime.

"I will let the ombudsman decide whether it's maladministration or not."

It is believed that the budget put forward was in the region of £350,000.

Roy Hamilton, secretary of the Plymouth Licensed Taxi Association, said the provision of information before the meeting had been unacceptable.

He said: "I was lucky - my post came earlier than usual so I received the figures on the morning of the meeting. I had to photocopy them for everyone else who came along.

"We're looking at a budget in excess of £300,000 and we're meant to make our minds up on it in just five minutes - it's not on.

"I'll definitely be talking to the District Auditor because we've all had enough of this."

A council spokesperson said: "It is not for the trade representatives to decide which officer chairs this budget meeting.

"The officer who did chair it is our current lead on taxi issues and it was appropriate for him to lead this meeting.

"Some of the budget information was not provided until the morning of the meeting and we are apologising for that.

"We will reconvene the meeting having given all attendees plenty of time to digest all the budget information."


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:15 am 
I'm glad they can afford it.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:39 am 
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£350,000? between 1100 HC & PH drivers plus plating fee and badge fees. and what do we get back?
answers on a postcard to usual address cos i dont have a clue :?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 11:17 am 
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£350,000? between 1100 HC & PH drivers plus plating fee and badge fees. and what do we get back?
answers on a postcard to usual address cos i dont have a clue :?


Same here Steve, our Council get over £100,000 from the taxi and PH trade in Mansfield and all they say to you is, we were democratically elected by the public. They wouldn't know democracy if it hit them full on in the face.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 11:20 am 
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These are the clowns who are trying to run Mansfield Council.



Kilroy quits UKIP group of MEPs


Mr Kilroy-Silk caused uproar in the European Parliament on Wednesday
Former TV host Robert Kilroy-Silk has withdrawn from the UK Independence Party group of Euro MPs after it discussed kicking him out.
The East Midlands MEP said he was remaining in the party but would not work with his colleagues in Strasbourg.

He argued he was helping the other UKIP MEPs out of a hole, claiming they had discovered they could not expel him over his criticisms of the leadership.

In a statement, the other MEPs said they "very much regret" his move.

Ousting move

Mr Kilroy-Silk has been vocal about his ambitions to replace current leader Roger Knapman and says UKIP should be a serious political party and not just a pressure group.

As MEPs prepared for their monthly meeting, a UKIP spokesman said the withdrawal of the whip from Mr Kilroy-Silk was "on the cards".

Mr Knapman has repeatedly urged his rival to stop his battle for the leadership, saying he would end up humiliated.

They needed to dig themselves out of a hole and I have helped them

Robert Kilroy-Silk
UKIP MEP talking about his colleagues

The meeting was branded a "kangaroo court" by Mr Kilroy-Silk, who said he would not be attending.

He said he had been told that MEPs' leader Nigel Farage did not have the votes for withdrawing the whip.

He also stressed that "due process" had not been followed.

Initially he said he did not care if he was ousted.

But later he told BBC News 24: "They needed to dig themselves out of a hole and I have helped them by saying these people in effect have wanted to hang me for the last week or more and now they're suddenly saying 'come and have dinner with us tonight'.

"Well, I don't think I can do that.

"I have said I will not work with the parliamentary party in Strasbourg again but of course I will continue to be a member of UKIP.

"And most importantly I will be doing what I have been doing, which is going round the country trying to put the case for Britain to govern itself and not be governed by Brussels."

He denied suggestions he wanted to set up another party.


'No pushing'

Mr Knapman said he regretted Mr Kilroy-Silk's decision, which would halt any leadership ambitions still harboured by the celebrity MEP.

"He did have talents, particularly in the promotion of the party and of himself. But he has caused us a lot of negative coverage," he said.

"I don't know how he convinced himself we were going to withdraw the whip from him.

"I think the group would have given him a final warning. It is true that some of his past comments did require some clarification. But he jumped, he was not pushed."

Conservative co-chairman Liam Fox derided the move as "yet another shambolic episode in the chequered history of UKIP".


Appointments row

Earlier, Mr Kilroy-Silk caused uproar as MEPs discussed the controversy about the proposed appointment of Rocco Buttiglione as a European commissioner.

Laughing, he shouted: "Point of order. Oi! Point of order."

Socialist group leader Martin Schulz accused him of being a hooligan and of "behaving like a spoilt child".


In a point of order, Mr Kilroy-Silk said the European Parliament should not have waited when commission president, Jose Manuel Barroso, arrived late for a hearing on Tuesday.

He wants a vote of no confidence in Mr Barroso, who he argues has treated the parliament with further disdain by producing no proposals on Wednesday.

Mr Barroso has withdrawn his proposed line-up of commissioners, saying more time is needed to find choices which would be approved by MEPs.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 7:32 pm 
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£350,000? between 1100 HC & PH drivers plus plating fee and badge fees. and what do we get back?

That's a shed load of money that really needs to be looked at. :shock:

How many LOs are employed exclusively for the HC/PH trade? :-k

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