Gladen V Brentwood and the law.

captain cab · **Posted:** Tue Nov 30, 2004 10:19 pm

John

I understand the news on the NTA site has been updated regarding the case, its nothing more than has been on here, but its a start.

regards

Captain Cab

Sussex · **Posted:** Tue Nov 30, 2004 10:21 pm

captain cab wrote:

I understand the news on the NTA site has been updated regarding the case, its nothing more than has been on here, but its a start.

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JD · **Joined:** Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:53 pm **Posts:** 10381

captain cab wrote:

John

I understand the news on the NTA site has been updated regarding the case, its nothing more than has been on here, but its a start.

regards

Captain Cab

That’s a good beginning and it wasn't that difficult was it.

Best wishes

JD

captain cab · **Posted:** Tue Nov 30, 2004 10:25 pm

lol it took a week, perhaps we need new pigeons in the NTA [-o<

regards

Captain Cab

captain cab · **Posted:** Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:32 pm

A couple of further points to this, i understand the LA may be appealing, although I dont think it will be successful.

Secondly, the advent of the beloved mobile phone has made it apparent to councils who delimit, theat they could gain through insisting that HC proprietors who use mobile phones for there business have the operators license, I would suggest this has been due to pressure from PH operators, who in some areas have witnessed former ph owner drivers leaving radio circuits when they are HC's.

Secondly, very often radio circuits suffer from drivers handing our their mobile numbers to passengers who invariably are considered good fares.

It could be stated that there is a link between delimitation of numbers, the switch from PH to HC as to why LAs have made HC's take on PH operators licenses.

Perhaps the most important thing to consider is the relevance, is this case as earthshattering as we are being led to believe?

In the terms of reassuring the HC trade perhaps, after all a HC is always a HC.

In terms of money, it is less significant.

Licensing departments need to work to a budget, the operators license is part of the income, any monies lost will be recouped through increased license fees, in this respect there has been no winner.

I agree with JD though, there are not many occassions where the court decides somthing that may affect elsewhere in the country, during the past two months we have had this and the Darlington Case, so perhaps weve been spoiled, until the appeal anyway.

regards

Captain cab

Sussex · **Posted:** Sat Dec 11, 2004 7:56 pm

I do have a degree (however small) of sympathy with the council. :shock:

All they are trying to do is to make sure that people who recieve bookings are 'fit and proper'. Clearly drivers will always be checked, but is it really asking too much for third parties that take, and pass on, bookings to HC drivers to be licensed?

captain cab · **Posted:** Sat Dec 11, 2004 9:58 pm

Quote:

but is it really asking too much for third parties that take, and pass on, bookings to HC drivers to be licensed?

no its not, all private hire operators should have crb checks, they get away with it at the moment, but whats to stop a villan starting a ph company taking bookings and going around and burgling them! lol :shock:

regards

Captain cab

Andy7 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2004 1:52 am

Dear Mr Knights in Brentwood was the man who took on the 1981 Transport Act (and lost).

And didn't he have the big fight with London operators spilling all over his district?

And wasn't it the same chap who demanded all Hackney carriages have trailers?

And isn't there a plethora of totally unlicensed vehicles in Brentwood? (Called Limousines?)

Or are they all licensed in Havering Mr Knights?

R.S.V.P.

Guest · **Posted:** Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:12 am

best means of defence is to attack. Are your Councils using your

licencing fees to generate money for other purposes or do you get value

for money? ?

juls · **Joined:** Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:29 pm **Posts:** 50

Ok.

We have a Hack driver in North somerset who is going to approach an Exeter PH firm. He/She has to move for what ever reason and needs work. I have given He/She all the gumph I have got of you fantastic lot and will let you know how she gets on.

Would be lovely if anyone who has done it can give some advice as to what the local LA might say or ours for that matter

Thanks all

you really have opened a can of worms down here which might just help us all in the long run. I will tell more on that when the plan all pans out

regards

Juls

Sussex · **Posted:** Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:35 am

juls wrote:

you really have opened a can of worms down here which might just help us all in the long run. I will tell more on that when the plan all pans out

It wasn't us, it was Mr Gladen. :wink:

skippy41 · **Posted:** Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:41 pm

Does that mean that I am no longer limited to the borders, and can work from an office anywhere as a pH, without removing the top sign or meter

Sussex · **Posted:** Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:13 pm

skippy41 wrote:

Does that mean that I am no longer limited to the borders, and can work from an office anywhere as a pH, without removing the top sign or meter

Yes.

But you may risk the chance of a council prosecuting you for plying for hire, even if you're not. :wink:

Fae Fife · **Posted:** Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:27 pm

skippy41 wrote:

Does that mean that I am no longer limited to the borders, and can work from an office anywhere as a pH, without removing the top sign or meter

Not in Scotland you can't.

The Berwick situation shouldn't arise because of the legislation, which we discussed at length in an Aberdeen thread recently. The relevant section of the legislation is posted by JD half way down the page.

http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=67711

skippy41 · **Posted:** Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:26 pm

I might go to Carlisle and do a card drop then :lol:

or even Berwick as there seems to be no cabs there at the moment.

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