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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:22 pm 
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Item 15 on the latest "B" agenda is a real cracker.

PHC driver applying for a taxi driver's licence. Deemed not to be fit and proper for a taxi licence, but committee allows him to keep his PHC licence.

How can you be not fit and proper to drive the public in a taxi - with a protective bulkhead separating driver and passenger - but fit and proper to drive the same passenger in a saloon car without the protective bulkhead?

Surely you're either a fit and proper person to hold a licence to convey the public, or you're not?

Or has taxi licensing become just a commodity in the "gift" of the council in general, and Jim Inch in particular?

Sue, the Act allows for this, where exactly?

Protecting the public? Isn't this what the council's supposed to be about?

Now this case had a report submitted by Jim Inch, but not published under "B" agenda rules.

So what inimitable Jim Inch bile was contained in it?

Couldn't be another breach of the Law Sue - Inch abusing the Law for personal reasons, and the sheeple councillors on the Kangaroo Court meekly going along with it, acting under instructions conveyed through Inch's loyal lieutenant, Colin Keir?

Sue, Corporate Services is YOUR responsibility. Are you going to rein the maverick Inch in, or is your tenure as Chief Executive just going to be another case of SNAFU?

BTW Cases are heard on the "B" agenda to protect Corporate Services and councillors from their actions. Insist your case is heard on the public "A" agenda. There's less chance councillors will stiff you, which they can and do under the protection of secrecy.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:30 pm 
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Jasbar wrote:
Item 15 on the latest "B" agenda is a real cracker.

PHC driver applying for a taxi driver's licence. Deemed not to be fit and proper for a taxi licence, but committee allows him to keep his PHC licence.

How can you be not fit and proper to drive the public in a taxi - with a protective bulkhead separating driver and passenger - but fit and proper to drive the same passenger in a saloon car without the protective bulkhead?

Surely you're either a fit and proper person to hold a licence to convey the public, or you're not?

Or has taxi licensing become just a commodity in the "gift" of the council in general, and Jim Inch in particular?

Sue, the Act allows for this, where exactly?

Protecting the public? Isn't this what the council's supposed to be about?

Now this case had a report submitted by Jim Inch, but not published under "B" agenda rules.

So what inimitable Jim Inch bile was contained in it?

Couldn't be another breach of the Law Sue - Inch abusing the Law for personal reasons, and the sheeple councillors on the Kangaroo Court meekly going along with it, acting under instructions conveyed through Inch's loyal lieutenant, Colin Keir?

Sue, Corporate Services is YOUR responsibility. Are you going to rein the maverick Inch in, or is your tenure as Chief Executive just going to be another case of SNAFU?

BTW Cases are heard on the "B" agenda to protect Corporate Services and councillors from their actions. Insist your case is heard on the public "A" agenda. There's less chance councillors will stiff you, which they can and do under the protection of secrecy.

Never took you long to start telling Sue what she should and shouldn't do!!!
It'll get worse :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:44 pm 
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I'm sure it makes perfect sense to someone. Anyone deemed unfit to be drive a taxi must be less of a threat to society driving a Ph. :-k

I'm not sure how it makes sense, but then again, I don't suppose those on the RC know either. Unless of course this was meant to be a punishment for some misdemeanor.

You know how these inadequate [edited by admin] on the RC like to beat on people.
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I bet Frank Smith was on his way to the toilet with a dirty magazine in hand when that decision was made.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:47 pm 
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Private Reggie wrote:
Jasbar wrote:
Item 15 on the latest "B" agenda is a real cracker.

PHC driver applying for a taxi driver's licence. Deemed not to be fit and proper for a taxi licence, but committee allows him to keep his PHC licence.

How can you be not fit and proper to drive the public in a taxi - with a protective bulkhead separating driver and passenger - but fit and proper to drive the same passenger in a saloon car without the protective bulkhead?

Surely you're either a fit and proper person to hold a licence to convey the public, or you're not?

Or has taxi licensing become just a commodity in the "gift" of the council in general, and Jim Inch in particular?

Sue, the Act allows for this, where exactly?

Protecting the public? Isn't this what the council's supposed to be about?

Now this case had a report submitted by Jim Inch, but not published under "B" agenda rules.

So what inimitable Jim Inch bile was contained in it?

Couldn't be another breach of the Law Sue - Inch abusing the Law for personal reasons, and the sheeple councillors on the Kangaroo Court meekly going along with it, acting under instructions conveyed through Inch's loyal lieutenant, Colin Keir?

Sue, Corporate Services is YOUR responsibility. Are you going to rein the maverick Inch in, or is your tenure as Chief Executive just going to be another case of SNAFU?

BTW Cases are heard on the "B" agenda to protect Corporate Services and councillors from their actions. Insist your case is heard on the public "A" agenda. There's less chance councillors will stiff you, which they can and do under the protection of secrecy.

Never took you long to start telling Sue what she should and shouldn't do!!!
It'll get worse :wink:



Reggie, you should stand for council. :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:50 pm 
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Skull wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
Jasbar wrote:
Item 15 on the latest "B" agenda is a real cracker.

PHC driver applying for a taxi driver's licence. Deemed not to be fit and proper for a taxi licence, but committee allows him to keep his PHC licence.

How can you be not fit and proper to drive the public in a taxi - with a protective bulkhead separating driver and passenger - but fit and proper to drive the same passenger in a saloon car without the protective bulkhead?

Surely you're either a fit and proper person to hold a licence to convey the public, or you're not?

Or has taxi licensing become just a commodity in the "gift" of the council in general, and Jim Inch in particular?

Sue, the Act allows for this, where exactly?

Protecting the public? Isn't this what the council's supposed to be about?

Now this case had a report submitted by Jim Inch, but not published under "B" agenda rules.

So what inimitable Jim Inch bile was contained in it?

Couldn't be another breach of the Law Sue - Inch abusing the Law for personal reasons, and the sheeple councillors on the Kangaroo Court meekly going along with it, acting under instructions conveyed through Inch's loyal lieutenant, Colin Keir?

Sue, Corporate Services is YOUR responsibility. Are you going to rein the maverick Inch in, or is your tenure as Chief Executive just going to be another case of SNAFU?

BTW Cases are heard on the "B" agenda to protect Corporate Services and councillors from their actions. Insist your case is heard on the public "A" agenda. There's less chance councillors will stiff you, which they can and do under the protection of secrecy.

Never took you long to start telling Sue what she should and shouldn't do!!!
It'll get worse :wink:



Reggie, you should stand for council. :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:12 pm 
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Skull wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
Jasbar wrote:
Item 15 on the latest "B" agenda is a real cracker.

PHC driver applying for a taxi driver's licence. Deemed not to be fit and proper for a taxi licence, but committee allows him to keep his PHC licence.

How can you be not fit and proper to drive the public in a taxi - with a protective bulkhead separating driver and passenger - but fit and proper to drive the same passenger in a saloon car without the protective bulkhead?

Surely you're either a fit and proper person to hold a licence to convey the public, or you're not?

Or has taxi licensing become just a commodity in the "gift" of the council in general, and Jim Inch in particular?

Sue, the Act allows for this, where exactly?

Protecting the public? Isn't this what the council's supposed to be about?

Now this case had a report submitted by Jim Inch, but not published under "B" agenda rules.

So what inimitable Jim Inch bile was contained in it?

Couldn't be another breach of the Law Sue - Inch abusing the Law for personal reasons, and the sheeple councillors on the Kangaroo Court meekly going along with it, acting under instructions conveyed through Inch's loyal lieutenant, Colin Keir?

Sue, Corporate Services is YOUR responsibility. Are you going to rein the maverick Inch in, or is your tenure as Chief Executive just going to be another case of SNAFU?

BTW Cases are heard on the "B" agenda to protect Corporate Services and councillors from their actions. Insist your case is heard on the public "A" agenda. There's less chance councillors will stiff you, which they can and do under the protection of secrecy.

Never took you long to start telling Sue what she should and shouldn't do!!!
It'll get worse :wink:



Reggie, you should stand for council. :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:16 pm 
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Jasbar wrote:
Item 15 on the latest "B" agenda is a real cracker.

PHC driver applying for a taxi driver's licence. Deemed not to be fit and proper for a taxi licence, but committee allows him to keep his PHC licence.

How can you be not fit and proper to drive the public in a taxi - with a protective bulkhead separating driver and passenger - but fit and proper to drive the same passenger in a saloon car without the protective bulkhead?

Surely you're either a fit and proper person to hold a licence to convey the public, or you're not?

Or has taxi licensing become just a commodity in the "gift" of the council in general, and Jim Inch in particular?

Sue, the Act allows for this, where exactly?

Protecting the public? Isn't this what the council's supposed to be about?

Now this case had a report submitted by Jim Inch, but not published under "B" agenda rules.

So what inimitable Jim Inch bile was contained in it?

Couldn't be another breach of the Law Sue - Inch abusing the Law for personal reasons, and the sheeple councillors on the Kangaroo Court meekly going along with it, acting under instructions conveyed through Inch's loyal lieutenant, Colin Keir?

Sue, Corporate Services is YOUR responsibility. Are you going to rein the maverick Inch in, or is your tenure as Chief Executive just going to be another case of SNAFU?

BTW Cases are heard on the "B" agenda to protect Corporate Services and councillors from their actions. Insist your case is heard on the public "A" agenda. There's less chance councillors will stiff you, which they can and do under the protection of secrecy.

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I would relish the challenge to take these council [edited by admin] through the courts before allowing them to sit in judgement over me.

Their processes have to be a complete abrogation of your Human Rights. That said, if you win, and I expect you would, your financial compensation could be quite substantial. I would rather spend my time fighting my case than driving a taxi.

[-o< If only ...

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:34 am 
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Jasbar wrote:
Item 15 on the latest "B" agenda is a real cracker.

PHC driver applying for a taxi driver's licence. Deemed not to be fit and proper for a taxi licence, but committee allows him to keep his PHC licence.

How can you be not fit and proper to drive the public in a taxi - with a protective bulkhead separating driver and passenger - but fit and proper to drive the same passenger in a saloon car without the protective bulkhead?

Surely you're either a fit and proper person to hold a licence to convey the public, or you're not?

Or has taxi licensing become just a commodity in the "gift" of the council in general, and Jim Inch in particular?

Sue, the Act allows for this, where exactly?

Protecting the public? Isn't this what the council's supposed to be about?

Now this case had a report submitted by Jim Inch, but not published under "B" agenda rules.

So what inimitable Jim Inch bile was contained in it?

Couldn't be another breach of the Law Sue - Inch abusing the Law for personal reasons, and the sheeple councillors on the Kangaroo Court meekly going along with it, acting under instructions conveyed through Inch's loyal lieutenant, Colin Keir?

Sue, Corporate Services is YOUR responsibility. Are you going to rein the maverick Inch in, or is your tenure as Chief Executive just going to be another case of SNAFU?

BTW Cases are heard on the "B" agenda to protect Corporate Services and councillors from their actions. Insist your case is heard on the public "A" agenda. There's less chance councillors will stiff you, which they can and do under the protection of secrecy.

There is a difference between a Hack licence and phc licence, well in my opinion there is:

Private hire is pre-booked and more checkable as far as driver movement is concerned, ye know easier to Track :wink:

A Hack licence though allows the driver to access the street work, c'mon Jim as you are a street car you should know there is no chance of checking your movement, very difficult to Track your movements :D

Jim you don't know the circumstances of this case and maybe the person has a chance to prove himself over the next couple of years so as to gain his/her hack licence.

I can't believe you overlooked this FACT :lol: ya wee sleekit cowrin beastie :lol: I'm sure Sue will gladly pass this fact on to you :lol:

1-0 Sue :lol:

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You feeling OK Dougie?

I'm sure your doctor has made every effort to keep the surgery open despite the appalling weather conditions.

The tablets will help you .... :lol:

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Jasbar, are you saying its possible Jim Inch had some input into the descion?

Why would he need to have any input?

Ive been told that p. h. c. dont have the same fit and proper checks as hack drivers is this true and if so does anyone know the differnce


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Jasbar wrote:
You feeling OK Dougie?

I'm sure your doctor has made every effort to keep the surgery open despite the appalling weather conditions.

The tablets will help you .... :lol:

As long as the tablets are working Jim :lol:

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Private Reggie wrote:
Jasbar wrote:
Item 15 on the latest "B" agenda is a real cracker.

PHC driver applying for a taxi driver's licence. Deemed not to be fit and proper for a taxi licence, but committee allows him to keep his PHC licence.

How can you be not fit and proper to drive the public in a taxi - with a protective bulkhead separating driver and passenger - but fit and proper to drive the same passenger in a saloon car without the protective bulkhead?

Surely you're either a fit and proper person to hold a licence to convey the public, or you're not?

Or has taxi licensing become just a commodity in the "gift" of the council in general, and Jim Inch in particular?

Sue, the Act allows for this, where exactly?

Protecting the public? Isn't this what the council's supposed to be about?

Now this case had a report submitted by Jim Inch, but not published under "B" agenda rules.

So what inimitable Jim Inch bile was contained in it?

Couldn't be another breach of the Law Sue - Inch abusing the Law for personal reasons, and the sheeple councillors on the Kangaroo Court meekly going along with it, acting under instructions conveyed through Inch's loyal lieutenant, Colin Keir?

Sue, Corporate Services is YOUR responsibility. Are you going to rein the maverick Inch in, or is your tenure as Chief Executive just going to be another case of SNAFU?

BTW Cases are heard on the "B" agenda to protect Corporate Services and councillors from their actions. Insist your case is heard on the public "A" agenda. There's less chance councillors will stiff you, which they can and do under the protection of secrecy.

There is a difference between a Hack licence and phc licence, well in my opinion there is:

Private hire is pre-booked and more checkable as far as driver movement is concerned, ye know easier to Track :wink:

A Hack licence though allows the driver to access the street work, c'mon Jim as you are a street car you should know there is no chance of checking your movement, very difficult to Track your movements :D

Jim you don't know the circumstances of this case and maybe the person has a chance to prove himself over the next couple of years so as to gain his/her hack licence.

I can't believe you overlooked this FACT :lol: ya wee sleekit cowrin beastie :lol: I'm sure Sue will gladly pass this fact on to you :lol:

1-0 Sue :lol:

You do concede that there is a difference :D

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Jasbar wrote:
You feeling OK Dougie?

I'm sure your doctor has made every effort to keep the surgery open despite the appalling weather conditions.

The tablets will help you .... :lol:


Yet again,taylor, you show how poorly you research a subject before opening your big gob.

It is a well known fact that this difference in hiring arrangements requires taxi drivers to be much more trustworthy than phc. As was said phc is pre-booked and traceable, taxis are not. The real problem is the lack of enforcement but with money having to be wasted on idiots like you, authorities are busy dealing with childish complaints so it's only a matter of time before................... We could all blame you for the next attack!!


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swannee wrote:
Jasbar wrote:
You feeling OK Dougie?

I'm sure your doctor has made every effort to keep the surgery open despite the appalling weather conditions.

The tablets will help you .... :lol:


Yet again,taylor, you show how poorly you research a subject before opening your big gob.

It is a well known fact that this difference in hiring arrangements requires taxi drivers to be much more trustworthy than phc. As was said phc is pre-booked and traceable, taxis are not. The real problem is the lack of enforcement but with money having to be wasted on idiots like you, authorities are busy dealing with childish complaints so it's only a matter of time before................... We could all blame you for the next attack!!


You're not the brightest candle in the box are you Swanee?

The job is exactly the same, driving people from a to b. Are you seriously saying that the PHC customer should accept being driven by someone less trustworthy than a taxi customer?

And, when any heinous deed is done, who cares about any of your so called differences. A vulnerable female raped by a Taxi driver is just as raped as if by a PHC driver, or imitator.

The key is the Public's safety. But then, complete erseholes like you Swannee don't care about the public. To you they're just a means for you to harvest cash.

And there's the difference between us. I care about the public. Because by looking after them, cutting them a fair deal, they'll repay with loyalty and continued use of our service.

And the proof exists. Your status quo, the way you treat the public, is causing us to lose customers hand over fist to the competition. We need to win them back. But we've got to ditch you and your pathetic mindset.

Stay as we are and we end up like Glasgow or Dundee, where the pressure from PHC is unbearable.

Modernise and we embrace the London model, where the value is in the professionalism of the drivers, not the greedy vested interest of owners.

As for money spent on me? If common sense had prevailed in the council money could have been saved rather than spending fortunes trying to defend the indefensible in court cases. That was the council's choice.

Jim Inch has been allowed to squander fortunes in licence payers' cash. Money runs low, Inch just hiked licence fees to the ludicrous levels they are, where a new taxi licence inedinburgh is 4 times that of anywhere else. Inch should facing criminal charges for such maladministration, and the councillors sanctioning this shold be facing an open public inquiry.

That neither is demonstrates clearly the disgrace that our culpable and unaccountable local government has become.

So, don't blame us. You don't like it speak to your councillor and get them to ask the pertinent questions.

And remember we sat before Donald Anderson twice to articulate the case. Jim Inch said to Anderson, "I told you that I didn't think this meeting was a good idea". £We tried to play by the system.

However, rather than see the potential Anderson couldn't get his brain past the illustration of Attridge as a right t*t. That was the quality of Anderson, playing petty politics while ignoring the issues. Now we're 7 years down the line and the council has spent the fortunes you speak of and incurred immense damage to its reputation. It was their choice rather than for common sense to prevail.

Remember the whole council is ailing, has been for years. The new Chief Executive has her job cut out to turn it around. She's claimed the job is the pinnacle of her career. Assuredly success will not be hers by continuing the practices of previous administrations. It needs the new mindset to encourage enterprise, efficiency and good staff and public relations- all urrently disaster areas.

If change comes then success will be hers. Listening to greedy vested interests and staff programmed to protect them will mean failure. Let's hope she is a catalyst for change and fairness so we can get on with the job of building a taxi trade we can read good stories about in the press for a change, eh?

Remember, we're not going away. And we don't care how much it finally costs the council. But we are going to win, Swannee. Believe it!

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