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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:00 pm 
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well i said who's jackie for a reason
so as to make it clear what you were really saying

the fact that you mentioned my wife twice,shows what kind of individual you are.
why would you mention it,nothing more than trying to have a random dig
in some vaine attempt to attack me

your pathetic,but you already know that.


Wow, your awfully touchy on this......you 'spelt' vain wrong btw. :wink:

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Or have i spoiled it by speculating AliT and his Wife have New Apps in to the council :lol:


I cant say I'm particularly interested, but I wonder if Mrs Turnbull is a licensed HC driver in Edinburgh?

CC

no she has qualifications and a good job which she enjoys

and she has nothing to do with comet and neither do i,or do i :lol:

what about mrs casey whats she been up to :lol:


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So lets recap and lets use some facts, which admittedly are a strange thing in the Scottish section;

Malta recently earned £1 million pounds through selling 20 licenses.

Southampton issued 4 and earned a grand total of £720.

A medallion type system would earn councils potentially millions of pounds, those millions of pounds are already allegedly spent on some alleged black market anyway.

The threesome want delimitation which would earn a local authority only the cost of issuing a license.

If Edinburgh were to delimit, based on evidence elsewhere there is a chance the fleet of taxis would increase by 1/3rd within 6 months, which is a conservative estimate to say the least.

Cardiff's taxi fleet doubled in a matter of 7 years.

Liverpool's fleet rose from 400 to 1200 within 2 years.

Carlisle's taxi fleet increased from 33 to 150 within 18 months.

I dont know the number of taxis in Edinburgh, at a guess I'd say 1200?

If 400 extra licenses were to be issued at £30K each this would earn the local authority some £12 million.

If this type of money is available to local authorities, it isn't beyond my imagination that any government, given the fact they have no money, would seriously look at this idea.

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Err, but if you issued the hypothetical derestriction number of licences then no one would pay anything for a licence and those currently in issue would become worthless. :roll: And you propose using demand surveys, yet these rarely propose issuing more than a handful of licences, so hardly a huge windfall for council coffers.

So you don't understand even the basic dynamics of the system, Reggie can't even get the terminology right - medallion system = plate system - and he thinks Transport Scotland have some sort of remit regarding these matters. ](*,)

But it would be great to get the whole thing debated in an open fashion, so bring it on, I say :D

After all, our Parliament is so bereft of big issues to discuss that the transport minister had to resign over a few issues of snow, so it would be great to get the Scottish commentariat and chatterati discussing the whole background and history of taxi restriction in Scotland.

But even if they did consider allowing councils to sell plates on the open market, recall that current plates apparently have no intrinsic value, thus they could rescind and reissue the whole lot, therefore current plates become worthless, but at least with the new issues it would be transparent and fairer.

To be honest I would be careful what you wish for, but a couple of years from now we'll know who'll get the credit for this 'vision' :D

I cannae wait \:D/

Recalling already profited from licences would be extremley difficult and won't happen

The council would make a sufficent amount from a transfer tax and fee's from individuals and multi plate holders

The amount can be justified by investing most of the money gains in to taking the cab office to the next level, providing the whole trade and customers with a more efficent service all round

It's not about the money the council can gain though it's about compromise

The trade has had plate value's for years, there shouldn't be a way back, we tried de-restriction in the 80s it didn't work, we need a fairer system reflecting the current system, the Medallion/Plate system meets the criteria

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Quality post jaspar



Well at least you're half right :D

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far from it
wife Jackie
sons Steve,mark,Ali
daughter Louise

this reflects more on your personality than it does on me wayne.

once again whats the interest,other than trying to get some sort of rise from me. :lol:


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ALI T wrote:
captain cab wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
Or have i spoiled it by speculating AliT and his Wife have New Apps in to the council :lol:


I cant say I'm particularly interested, but I wonder if Mrs Turnbull is a licensed HC driver in Edinburgh?

CC

no she has qualifications and a good job which she enjoys

and she has nothing to do with comet and neither do i,or do i :lol:

what about mrs casey whats she been up to :lol:

She doesn't work for the council does she, maybe :shock: :shock:

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ALI T wrote:
far from it
wife Jackie
sons Steve,mark,Ali
daughter Louise

this reflects more on your personality than it does on me wayne.

once again whats the interest,other than trying to get some sort of rise from me. :lol:

Nearly the same as me, 4 boys and a girl :D Oh and by the way my wife is disabled

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ALI T wrote:
no she has qualifications and a good job which she enjoys

and she has nothing to do with comet and neither do i,or do i :lol:

what about mrs casey whats she been up to :lol:


Mrs Casey, but you can call her Caroline (because I like you), got p*ssed last night whilst I was at work and she was on her works 'doo'.

But Caroline has nothing to do with taxis, other than be bored sh*tless by them.

She has never, ever, and I can guarantee this, denied cab drivers 'unfettered access' to the tools of their trade.

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as long as it doesn't affect Dougie

your a complete plonker dougie and a selfish one at that.

guess what dougie its about to affect you big time

its just round the corner

the court case gets the council of the compo wagon

and the players being brought into the cec kinda says it all

its not surprising you cant see it,your clueless


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ALI T wrote:
as long as it doesn't affect Dougie

your a complete plonker dougie and a selfish one at that.

guess what dougie its about to affect you big time

its just round the corner

the court case gets the council of the compo wagon

and the players being brought into the cec kinda says it all

its not surprising you cant see it,your clueless

Resorting to playground stuff now Alister :lol:

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So are you just mischief making CC or are you seriously proposing a New York style medallion system?


I'm merely proffering an alternative view, people can make up their own minds and it open to debate :wink:

When we see care homes closing, nurseries being closed, LA's struggling for cash.........then plates being issued, by those same LA's for nothing then sold for thousands, its obvious its a option people should think about.

CC


Since it's the season for wishes, Here's a counter proposal:

1 No more licence transfers allowed. All new plates/renewals must be issued to the holder of a taxi driver's licence.
Only one per driver's licence.
If said driver's licence becomes invalid for any reason, the plate gets returned to the council.

2 All company held plates to be returned to the council when a change in company owners or directors occur.

3 Allow councils to charge a reasonable set fee over and above the cost of processing the taxi licence application to successful applicants on grant or renewal, such money to be accrued in a "common good fund" which can only be used for certain things e.g care homes.

I would suggest £1000 for a grant and £500 on renewal as being reasonable amounts.
With a high turnover of licences, a decent amount would be accrued each year and nobody would be making money from the market in plates, except a few worthy causes which benefit the local area.

Taking cover now :lol:

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ALI T wrote:
as long as it doesn't affect Dougie

your a complete plonker dougie and a selfish one at that.

guess what dougie its about to affect you big time

its just round the corner

the court case gets the council of the compo wagon

and the players being brought into the cec kinda says it all

its not surprising you cant see it,your clueless

No great loss to me

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gusmac wrote:
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gusmac wrote:
So are you just mischief making CC or are you seriously proposing a New York style medallion system?


I'm merely proffering an alternative view, people can make up their own minds and it open to debate :wink:

When we see care homes closing, nurseries being closed, LA's struggling for cash.........then plates being issued, by those same LA's for nothing then sold for thousands, its obvious its a option people should think about.

CC


Since it's the season for wishes, Here's a counter proposal:

1 No more licence transfers allowed. All new plates/renewals must be issued to the holder of a taxi driver's licence.
Only one per driver's licence.
If said driver's licence becomes invalid for any reason, the plate gets returned to the council.

2 All company held plates to be returned to the council when a change in company owners or directors occur.

3 Allow councils to charge a reasonable set fee over and above the cost of processing the taxi licence application to successful applicants on grant or renewal, such money to be accrued in a "common good fund" which can only be used for certain things e.g care homes.

I would suggest £1000 for a grant and £500 on renewal as being reasonable amounts.
With a high turnover of licences, a decent amount would be accrued each year and nobody would be making money from the market in plates, except a few worthy causes which benefit the local area.

Taking cover now :lol:

Insignificant to the debate :roll:

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ALI T wrote:
far from it
wife Jackie
sons Steve,mark,Ali
daughter Louise

this reflects more on your personality than it does on me wayne.

once again whats the interest,other than trying to get some sort of rise from me. :lol:


Where you coming from.....I already told you me, my wife, asbo 1 & 2 have been in taxitalk ffs

http://www.taxitalk.co.uk/pdfs/TaxiTalk%20Aug%202010.pdf

page 28

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gusmac wrote:
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gusmac wrote:
So are you just mischief making CC or are you seriously proposing a New York style medallion system?


I'm merely proffering an alternative view, people can make up their own minds and it open to debate :wink:

When we see care homes closing, nurseries being closed, LA's struggling for cash.........then plates being issued, by those same LA's for nothing then sold for thousands, its obvious its a option people should think about.

CC


Since it's the season for wishes, Here's a counter proposal:

1 No more licence transfers allowed. All new plates/renewals must be issued to the holder of a taxi driver's licence.
Only one per driver's licence.
If said driver's licence becomes invalid for any reason, the plate gets returned to the council.

2 All company held plates to be returned to the council when a change in company owners or directors occur.

3 Allow councils to charge a reasonable set fee over and above the cost of processing the taxi licence application to successful applicants on grant or renewal, such money to be accrued in a "common good fund" which can only be used for certain things e.g care homes.

I would suggest £1000 for a grant and £500 on renewal as being reasonable amounts.
With a high turnover of licences, a decent amount would be accrued each year and nobody would be making money from the market in plates, except a few worthy causes which benefit the local area.

Taking cover now :lol:


Dont take cover you sound like my brother ffs :wink:

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