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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:27 pm 
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Are passengers not placed in the 'crumple zone' of the vehicle if it is rear access. Also how easy is it to rescue a passenger from a rear loader compared to a side loader if it has a rear end accident?

I wonder if there are stats that indicate where most dents occur, as I'm pretty sure I see a lot more dented sides than backs.

But the anti-rear argument fails down due to the fact all ambulances load via the rear.

If it's safe for them, then why not us? :?

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No, they are too dangerous.

Are you saying all ambulances should be taken of the road? :?

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if so called public saftey is paramont ,wait till one of the rear acces get bumpt there wont be a rescue it will be just a recovery of a body :sad:

Why? :?

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Some councils, (Lincoln for instance) will licence rear loaders for PH but not as a Hackney Carriage. How strange is that?

Perfectly in keeping with the lack of sense emanating from most council buildings.


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No, they are too dangerous.

Are you saying all ambulances should be taken of the road? :?


Obviously not Sussex, whilst I understand the worries of being "rear ended, what really worries me and where I see the real danger is in the loading and unloading stage.

The Ambulance you allude to has some lovely blue flashing lights, is somewhat larger than the average Taxi (in what ever guise) and is far better designed for the job than any of our vehicles.

Put your hazard lights on - that helps, the open the back up, put the ramps ready and assist the Wheelchair user into the vehicle. That is all OK so long as the lights are not obscured by the doors, or the wheelchair user, or the you the driver.

When the other vehicle hits you - for whatever reason - you had better hope that the crumple zones on both vehicles are really, really easily crumpled - because it is you and your passenger who will be crumpling them. In my considered opinion the two of you will be far more damaged than either of the vehicles.

I would go so far as to suggest that privately owned vehicles for the disabled also should not be rear loading, but that argument is not ideally suited to this forum.

As an aside, I often have to collect a wheelchair and take it to the hospital to get a regular wheelchair passenger who went in by Ambulance. I get that job to do because the passenger has had to travel in by stretcher in the Ambulance - because it is too dangerous to carry a wheelchair in an Ambulance apparently!

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Should rear-access taxi get a licence?


Perhaps in certain parts :lol: :lol: :lol:

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if so called public saftey is paramont ,wait till one of the rear acces get bumpt there wont be a rescue it will be just a recovery of a body :sad:


And you base this view on what exactly?
wake up call for u nad sussex ive got one duh thats what i base it on :?


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if so called public saftey is paramont ,wait till one of the rear acces get bumpt there wont be a rescue it will be just a recovery of a body :sad:


And you base this view on what exactly?
wake up call for u nad sussex ive got one duh thats what i base it on :?


You have one. Have you had a rear end shunt? If no, then you are talking boll0cks. If you have had a rear ender, was there a dead body?

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mycab wrote:
if so called public saftey is paramont ,wait till one of the rear acces get bumpt there wont be a rescue it will be just a recovery of a body :sad:


And you base this view on what exactly?
wake up call for u nad sussex ive got one duh thats what i base it on :?


You have one. Have you had a rear end shunt? If no, then you are talking boll0cks. If you have had a rear ender, was there a dead body?


maybe u should pay more attention i said i had one and that was just my opinion as aposed to yours as u probably aint even seen one yet so bollocks to yourself


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mycab wrote:
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if so called public saftey is paramont ,wait till one of the rear acces get bumpt there wont be a rescue it will be just a recovery of a body :sad:


And you base this view on what exactly?
wake up call for u nad sussex ive got one duh thats what i base it on :?


You have one. Have you had a rear end shunt? If no, then you are talking boll0cks. If you have had a rear ender, was there a dead body?


maybe u should pay more attention i said i had one and that was just my opinion as aposed to yours as u probably aint even seen one yet so bollocks to yourself


I paid attention. You said that you got one not that you had one. What evidence are you basing your opinion on? You state that if there is a rear end shunt, there will be a dead body. Now that statement is boll0cks and you know it.

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Obviously not Sussex, whilst I understand the worries of being "rear ended, what really worries me and where I see the real danger is in the loading and unloading stage.

So your concern is solely down to the loading or unloading at a rank?

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if so called public saftey is paramont ,wait till one of the rear acces get bumpt there wont be a rescue it will be just a recovery of a body :sad:


And you base this view on what exactly?
wake up call for u nad sussex ive got one duh thats what i base it on :?

Thank you for that highly insightful addition to the debate. ](*,)

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Sussex wrote:
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Obviously not Sussex, whilst I understand the worries of being "rear ended, what really worries me and where I see the real danger is in the loading and unloading stage.

So your concern is solely down to the loading or unloading at a rank?

Sussex I think you are pulling my..... chain. Despite your selective edit of my quote. Even in the part selected I point out that being rear ended is a problem that I understand. Then I went on pointing out the situation whilst loading or unloading. This could be at a rank, or at a prospective passengers address, or even at a flag down, I didn't specify. The unloading would generally, but to be pedantic, not often, be at a rank.

Having covered that, I stand behind the full posting that you part quoted.

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mycab wrote:
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if so called public saftey is paramont ,wait till one of the rear acces get bumpt there wont be a rescue it will be just a recovery of a body :sad:


And you base this view on what exactly?
wake up call for u nad sussex ive got one duh thats what i base it on :?


So have I. Duh! Had side loaders too.
What's your point?

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gusmac wrote:
mycab wrote:
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mycab wrote:
if so called public saftey is paramont ,wait till one of the rear acces get bumpt there wont be a rescue it will be just a recovery of a body :sad:


And you base this view on what exactly?
wake up call for u nad sussex ive got one duh thats what i base it on :?


So have I. Duh! Had side loaders too.
What's your point?


duh have u woohoo war the f*cks the back crumple zone are u telling me that with the rear crumple zone missing that a car would no go rite through the back tail gate have u woke up yet passenger sits almost on back tail gate k plus to add rear ended and garanteed passenger would either be strangled with the belt or they would be sitting on your lap or u would be scraping them off the bonnet after they go through the front windscreen ,go have a look at one of theses pegout premiere and than tell me if am wrong idiot :evil: thats my point


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