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I don't necessarily agree 100% with Sussex's strategy, but I think the Scottish and English systems are sufficiently similar that what works in England should work in Scotland?

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Sussex , your brilliant , I love your style. 8) 8)

Your welcome. :wink:

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Sirius wrote:
It just seems strange that someone who resides in Sussex? is telling people in Scotland how to deal with their council. :lol:

Well someone from Scotland took our country to war. Someone from Scotland has just announced free buses for our soon to be ex punters, and someone from Scotland has just announced a scheme to charge us up to £1.34 a mile.

Get my point. :-$

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The free buses thing, well good for them, if we cant give our elderly a run on the bus free of charge after a life time of giving, well theres no hope for us.

The thing is that the more folk that get on buses, the less get in taxi/PH. :sad:

And the more buses that are put on to meet the new demand, the more buses there are for non old folk. :sad:

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This is the thing that gets me though, you all talk about the free market ( where did Adam Smith come from again :lol: ) in plates, this of course would probably be in keeping with Smithsonian thinking, but pay for the roads,that also finds favour in Smithsonian economics, so how do you reconcile the two?

We already pay tax by the mile, it's called fuel duty. :wink:

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This is the thing that gets me though, you all talk about the free market ( where did Adam Smith come from again :lol: ) in plates, this of course would probably be in keeping with Smithsonian thinking, but pay for the roads,that also finds favour in Smithsonian economics, so how do you reconcile the two?



Paying for the roads is basically the use of the price mechanism to allocate a scare resource, just like everything else you pay money for.

If the Govt didn't provide roads you would have to pay for them anyway.

The plate issue is all about artificially restricting access to a market.

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:shock: what, like a Plate :wink: , so using the price mechanism to allocate a scarce resource such as the road network is ok, but using the price mechanism for plates is not :?:

Remind me, how much do councils charge for plates? :?

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So we want to have as many Taxis as possible to sit doing nothing :? or we could embrace the OFT's happy hour idea, or was that one of the bits we did not like :lol: :lol:

Not quite sure how you came to that, but no.

What I want is plenty of taxis taking the people who are getting on buses for nothing.

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This is the thing that gets me though, you all talk about the free market ( where did Adam Smith come from again :lol: ) in plates, this of course would probably be in keeping with Smithsonian thinking, but pay for the roads,that also finds favour in Smithsonian economics, so how do you reconcile the two?



Paying for the roads is basically the use of the price mechanism to allocate a scare resource, just like everything else you pay money for.

If the Govt didn't provide roads you would have to pay for them anyway.

The plate issue is all about artificially restricting access to a market.


TDO.

Are you serious.

Do you honestly believe this tosh?


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Sirius wrote:
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This is the thing that gets me though, you all talk about the free market ( where did Adam Smith come from again :lol: ) in plates, this of course would probably be in keeping with Smithsonian thinking, but pay for the roads,that also finds favour in Smithsonian economics, so how do you reconcile the two?



Paying for the roads is basically the use of the price mechanism to allocate a scare resource, just like everything else you pay money for.

If the Govt didn't provide roads you would have to pay for them anyway.

The plate issue is all about artificially restricting access to a market.


TDO.

Are you serious.

Do you honestly believe this tosh?


Err, I'm not really sure what you mean.

Insofar as they are three simple statements of fact that I've no reason to believe are untrue, then yes, I believe them.

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Well TDO, if you aint got the money to pay for using the roads will this be an artificial barrier to the market, in er road space? perhaps we could all build our own roads and charge each other for using them. :lol:

"Paying for the roads is basically the use of the price mechanism to allocate a scare resource, just like everything else you pay money for."

:shock: what, like a Plate :wink: , so using the price mechanism to allocate a scarce resource such as the road network is ok, but using the price mechanism for plates is not :?

However there has been so many things written on here already about this that theres no point going over it all again, your either for or against, or, like me , just baffled by the whole thing. :lol: :lol:


Revenue from motorists has never been about road maintenance. In 2003 just 6 billion of the 40 billion pounds collected in motorist tax was spent on roads. If all the monies over the years collected in taxes had been spent on roads we would have the finest road network in the world, that is without doubt. The fact is all Governments see motorists as a cash cow, all this talk about treating road travel as a luxury is pure nonsense, if the government wanted to reduce road travel they could do it without penalising motorists financially.

If anyone requires any statistics about transport costs they might wish to visit the "Transport watch" site at,

http://www.transwatch.co.uk/transport-fact-sheet-13.htm


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