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Well it's obviously not your favourite word, since there's two Ls in allude


Oh scraping the barrell on that one Dusty. :-k


Just my idea of a little leg pull, that's why I used a smilie, which you conveniently left out from your quote.

So you can have a dig because I repeat a word occassionally :shock: , but if I have a dig back it's 'scraping the barrell'?

If I wanted to scrap the barrel in this way, I could do nothing else.

By the way, I think there's only one L in barrel :wink:

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I'm opposed.

Definately Opposed.

I'm opposed to the point of anger.

What is it I'm opposed to?

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My point was essentially that you to an extent you took advantage of the situation and made more money than usual, a la the minicabs.



Oh definatley, I picked up people, took them to their destinations and charged them the metered rate.

Very naughty, Cabbies picking up fares on the day of the bombings.

Disgusting. :?


My point was that to the extent that you made more usual on the day of the bombings then you exploited the situation, as did the minicabs.

I'm not saying you did what they did, only that in a smaller way you took advantage as well?

It's hardly worth mentioning, but I think you went over the top in relation to your condemnation of a small number of minicabs.

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Yes, I agree with your sentiments about minicabs taking advantage, but my point was that it's surely not as black and white as you say, it's a question of degree.


Or your interpretation of the events which of course must always be right?

:lol:


So you didn't make money from other people's misfortune, as per you condemnation of certain minicab operators in your signature?

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If you're saying you always just refer to the vast majority, then surely if only a few hundred minicab drivers upped their prices, then the vast majority didn't, as with the black cab side?



I did'nt say the majority, thats your words.


To remind you, you said:

"As always I make reference to the vast majority"

So if there's 30,000 minicab drivers at least, and only a few hundred upped their prices, are you saying that to say the 'vast majority' didn't up their prices is inaccurate?



The vast majority of LICENSED TAXI DRIVERS did not overcharge.

That was the reference for the above phrase.

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I quoted from a couple of official documents a few weeks ago, but of course all you said was that it others parties were more opposed.

But I don't think you denied that the trade was opposed.


That was one document with some quote from Westminster council ???

I can't recall any opposition to licensing from the trade, if you have information saying otherwise, feel free to post it.
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I'm not saying you did what they did, only that in a smaller way you took advantage as well?



I was working that day.

I came in and helped people get home, yes I charged, yes if someone had appeared who was walking wounded from an incident they would'nt have been charged a penny, just like old soldiers don't get charged in my cab, so i'm still puzzled how I took advantage of the situation, even in the slightest?

Thats what we do (well most of us on the forum) we take people places and they pay us, even on unusual days like 7/7.

Have you donated to the fund yet?
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So you didn't make money from other people's misfortune, as per you condemnation of certain minicab operators in your signature?


I did'nt rip them off for £400 for a 5 mile trip if thats what you mean.

Nor did I come out with crap about 'war zones' and 'our dreevers leefs er at risk'.

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I'm opposed.

Definately Opposed.

I'm opposed to the point of anger.

What is it I'm opposed to?


Dusty's endless reply's ?
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You won't get an easy ride on here GBC, unlike on the other forum :wink:

By the way, I noticed one of the moderators getting a bit stroppy with your recently, was that because you've been posting on here :lol:



Stroppy? Not that i've seen.

Ah! Your interpretation again in Dustyland? :wink:
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I think the problem is that the leadership of the London taxi trade try to out do one another in the let's slag off LPH.

So when they hear that a few scum bags are charging way over the top, the whole LPH trade is tarred with that brush.

Still at least Mr Oddy was in his nice safe office shouting his orders to work. [-(

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I think the problem is that the leadership of the London taxi trade try to out do one another in the let's slag off LPH.

So when they hear that a few scum bags are charging way over the top, the whole LPH trade is tarred with that brush.

Still at least Mr Oddy was in his nice safe office shouting his orders to work. [-(


Well there's cerainly plenty of ammunition supplied by them to enable this to happen.

I don't think its the trades bodies first concern, or even 21st concern, theres many more important issues at the moment.

Vehicles, Euro 3 conversions, Bus Lanes in the City, etc.

Bob Oddy, whilst the Chairman of the LTDA, does still drive a Taxi (a Fairway!) Whether he was working that day? Who knows.
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greenbadgecabby wrote:
[The vast majority of LICENSED TAXI DRIVERS did not overcharge.

That was the reference for the above phrase.

Spiiinnn...................... wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.


Yes, I agree with your quote:

The vast majority of LICENSED TAXI DRIVERS did not overcharge.

However, since you said that only a few hundred minicab drivers upped their prices, presumably you agree that:

The vast majority of minicab drivers did not up their prices?

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I quoted from a couple of official documents a few weeks ago, but of course all you said was that it others parties were more opposed.

But I don't think you denied that the trade was opposed.


That was one document with some quote from Westminster council ???

I can't recall any opposition to licensing from the trade, if you have information saying otherwise, feel free to post it.


No, it was a speech in the Commons by the sponsor of the Bill to license minicabs - you'll see that he cites the opposition of the black cab trade on two seperate occassions regarding 1989 and 1994.

This was what I posted, are you saying that Sir George Young was incorrect?

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In the second reading of the PHV (London) Bill, its sponsor Sir George Young said:

In 1989, Westminster city council proposed that the then current London Local Authorities Bill should empower London boroughs to license minicabs, but pressure from the taxi trade dissuaded the council. The Select Committee on Transport investigated the subject in 1994, and recommended that London's private hire vehicles should be regulated. The Government accepted that principle.

Efforts to bring London into line foundered for a number of reasons. Pressure on Government time often squeezed Bills out. The Bill was not in the Queen's Speech, nor was it in the previous one. Private Members' Bills hit the anxieties of the black cab trade which was concerned about giving credibility to the minicab by licensing it.

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I'm not saying you did what they did, only that in a smaller way you took advantage as well?



I was working that day.

I came in and helped people get home, yes I charged, yes if someone had appeared who was walking wounded from an incident they would'nt have been charged a penny, just like old soldiers don't get charged in my cab, so i'm still puzzled how I took advantage of the situation, even in the slightest?



I never said you shouldn't or didn't charge, what I said was that to the extent that you were busier than normal because of what happened and thus were better off than you would have been otherwise, then you took advantage of the situation?

I'm not saying that I wouldn't have done the same, but it's your dichotomy between the unalloyed good of the back cab trade and the unmitigated bad of the minicab trade that I'm questioning.

I often take people by taxi that have missed a train or whose train has been cancelled, so to that extent I'm benefitting from their misfortune. Not that difficult to admit surely?

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