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TDO

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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:25 pm

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greenbadgecabby wrote:

TDO wrote:

So you didn't make money from other people's misfortune, as per you condemnation of certain minicab operators in your signature?

I did'nt rip them off for £400 for a 5 mile trip if thats what you mean.

Nor did I come out with crap about 'war zones' and 'our dreevers leefs er at risk'.

:wink:

The bit of my earlier posts that you missed out made it clear that if you gained out of 7/7 then it was nothing like the exploitation of some minicab operators, so you're first sentence is just stating what I myself said.

As for the 'war zone' business, that may be a slight exaggeration, but why was everyone heading away from central London that day, and the buses weren't operating at all, for example?

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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:26 pm

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greenbadgecabby wrote:

Andy7 wrote:

I'm opposed.

Definately Opposed.

I'm opposed to the point of anger.

What is it I'm opposed to?

Dusty's endless reply's ?

Touche

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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:28 pm

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greenbadgecabby wrote:

TDO wrote:

You won't get an easy ride on here GBC, unlike on the other forum :wink:

By the way, I noticed one of the moderators getting a bit stroppy with your recently, was that because you've been posting on here :lol:

Stroppy? Not that i've seen.

Ah! Your interpretation again in Dustyland? :wink:

But you've seen it now though? :wink:

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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 7:19 pm

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TDO wrote:

done the same, but it's your dichotomy between the unalloyed good of the back cab trade and the unmitigated bad of the minicab trade that I'm questioning.

I couldn't agree more. :-s

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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:06 pm

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Here in Renfrewshire (Paisley, Glasgow Airport) neither taxis or private hire are permitted advertising on vehicles except for the lcd screens on the back of the front headrests that some of the taxis with airport permits have which show advertising approved by the Council

Taxis can only be white, use large roof signs providing free advertising for Renfrewshire Council complete with logo, with large front & rear plates and on the rear windows have the operator & plate number stencilled in

Private hire vehicles can be any colour other than white, use large plates screwed onto the rear bumber right hand side (big trouble if you try screwing it in the middle, left side or in the window), & have large stickers on the rear windows with free advertising for Council, plate number & company name

http://www.renfrewshire.gov.uk/websited ... Report.PDF

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GBC

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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:51 pm

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TDO wrote:

The vast majority of minicab drivers did not up their prices?

I never said at any time the VAST MAJORITY did.

I said 'many did' as all the stories related to them and not us.

It does'nt take a genius to work out more than a few jumped on the bandwaggon that day.

If Taxi drivers had done the same, why no stories in the press or on the radio?

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GBC

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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:57 pm

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TDO wrote:

No, it was a speech in the Commons by the sponsor of the Bill to license minicabs - you'll see that he cites the opposition of the black cab trade on two seperate occassions regarding 1989 and 1994.

This was what I posted, are you saying that Sir George Young was incorrect?

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In the second reading of the PHV (London) Bill, its sponsor Sir George Young said:

In 1989, Westminster city council proposed that the then current London Local Authorities Bill should empower London boroughs to license minicabs, but pressure from the taxi trade dissuaded the council. The Select Committee on Transport investigated the subject in 1994, and recommended that London's private hire vehicles should be regulated. The Government accepted that principle.

Efforts to bring London into line foundered for a number of reasons. Pressure on Government time often squeezed Bills out. The Bill was not in the Queen's Speech, nor was it in the previous one. Private Members' Bills hit the anxieties of the black cab trade which was concerned about giving credibility to the minicab by licensing it.

Well thats news to me.

I joined the trade in the eighties and all I recall is questions why the London Minicab trade was the only un-licensed PH in the country.

Perhaps it was the TGWU?

Why would we oppose a bill that wiped out 15'000 of the opposition in one sweep?

Why would we oppose a bill that upped their costs, to the extent that most of the large firms charge the same or more than Licensed Taxi's?

Not I, it was long overdue.

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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:01 pm

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TDO wrote:

I never said you shouldn't or didn't charge, what I said was that to the extent that you were busier than normal because of what happened and thus were better off than you would have been otherwise, then you took advantage of the situation?

Screeaamm!

How can I take advantage of the situation by working a day I was working regardless.

The ones that took advantage were the ones that were RIPPING people of, overcharging people who had no choice.

God your impossible. ](*,)

Black and white? you would argue one was the other whatever.

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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:05 pm

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TDO wrote:

As for the 'war zone' business, that may be a slight exaggeration, but why was everyone heading away from central London that day, and the buses weren't operating at all, for example?

Because they thought they would'nt get home otherwise.

Hardly running scared from 3 underground incidents and a Bus.

The Buses were stopped by the 'Code Red' alert issued under the London resillience plan, but that was lifted in the afternoon and all the Buses and Trains were operating again by 5.

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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:08 pm

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Sussex wrote:

TDO wrote:

done the same, but it's your dichotomy between the unalloyed good of the back cab trade and the unmitigated bad of the minicab trade that I'm questioning.

I couldn't agree more. :-s

Don't you start too. :roll:

If you end up going down the 'TDO style' the Forum will crash.

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GBC

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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:10 pm

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3 days and no replies? I'm getting worried.

Ah! Dusty's on Holiday..............

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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:35 pm

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http://www.ltda.co.uk/taxi/issue_99/pg02.htm

The editor seems to have supplied a little more evidence of how wonderful we all are.

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Andy7

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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:13 pm

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greenbadgecabby wrote:

http://www.ltda.co.uk/taxi/issue_99/pg02.htm

The editor seems to have supplied a little more evidence of how wonderful we all are.

If I looked like he does, I wouldnt put my picture in the article.

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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:31 pm

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Andy7 wrote:

greenbadgecabby wrote:

http://www.ltda.co.uk/taxi/issue_99/pg02.htm

The editor seems to have supplied a little more evidence of how wonderful we all are.

If I looked like he does, I wouldnt put my picture in the article.

Dracula?

But seriously, Mr Pessock is an extreemly intelligent and switched on individual.

One shrewd cookie as you might say.

I did think for a while that 'JD' was indeed Stuart Pessock.

But apparantly not! :wink:

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TDO

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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:29 am

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greenbadgecabby wrote:

TDO wrote:

The vast majority of minicab drivers did not up their prices?

Who claimed that they did - as I said, the point is that more would have done so if fares hadn't been regulated.

The point I've been trying to make regards something you said about usually referring to the 'vast majority' in that I said some black cabbies might be naughty as well.

But you said that only a few hundred PH drivers upped their prices, so surely the 'vast majority' didn't (ie the other thirty thousand or so).

Thus if you want to generalise on the basis of what the vast majority did, then both the black cab and PH trades behaved impeccably on 7/7.

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