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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:38 pm 
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Make it as simple as you wish. If, as you claim, you do not have access to the PMs, then as I said, let it lie.
I will however post this relevant quote from a support site: "This is an admin panel plug-in that allows the management of private messages on your forum. You may sort by a variety of options, delete any PMs you choose or optionally archive them for later use."


Hmm...is this an official support site. I suspect not.

I've tried a google search on the words you've posted, and indeed you are correct, but the word hack and suchlike keeps appearing.

Thus you were clearly being misleading earlier when you effectively claimed that reading the PMs was a standard admin privileged of this software.

IT'S NOT - IT'S EFFECTIVELY A HACK

But at least we now know how you operate.

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ach you spoilt ma fun tdo the 24 hours aint up

actually the so called quote from a support forum, is in fact the short description of the software in question.
however having spoken by email to the author he assures me that the software cannot be used to read pm.s (as i suspected if you read the description) that are encrypted in the database.
the software is for the managment of the pm database i:e size location and so on
not a nosey parkers tool and in no way can this piece of quoted software read pm's in the encrypted database.
of course that doesnt mean thier isnt a way to do it?? :oops:
but realcabforce obvoiusly doesnt know what hes talking about and has resorted to telling porkies.
realcabforce if you want to research something do it properly geezuz we got twenty odd post becouse of the [edited by admin] you spouted . less bullchit pleeeeease


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ALI T wrote:
ach you spoilt ma fun tdo the 24 hours aint up

actually the so called quote from a support forum, is in fact the short description of the software in question.
however having spoken by email to the author he assures me that the software cannot be used to read pm.s (as i suspected if you read the description) that are encrypted in the database.
the software is for the managment of the pm database i:e size location and so on
not a nosey parkers tool and in no way can this piece of quoted software read pm's in the encrypted database.
of course that doesnt mean thier isnt a way to do it?? :oops:
but realcabforce obvoiusly doesnt know what hes talking about and has resorted to telling porkies.
realcabforce if you want to research something do it properly geezuz we got twenty odd post becouse of the [edited by admin] you spouted . less bullchit pleeeeease



This will be a another case of you guys getting in touch with the owners to back your case, just like the hotel nonsense. :lol: :lol: Who did you speak to Ali?, Mr Bond maybe :lol:

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ach you spoilt ma fun tdo the 24 hours aint up

actually the so called quote from a support forum, is in fact the short description of the software in question.
however having spoken by email to the author he assures me that the software cannot be used to read pm.s (as i suspected if you read the description) that are encrypted in the database.
the software is for the managment of the pm database i:e size location and so on
not a nosey parkers tool and in no way can this piece of quoted software read pm's in the encrypted database.
of course that doesnt mean thier isnt a way to do it?? :oops:
but realcabforce obvoiusly doesnt know what hes talking about and has resorted to telling porkies.
realcabforce if you want to research something do it properly geezuz we got twenty odd post becouse of the [edited by admin] you spouted . less bullchit pleeeeease


We've got a trade in crisis. At the crossroads. What we do next decides whether we have a trade in the very near future.

And you, and TDO, have got to pander to the rantings of lunatics.

I'm bored with the [edited by admin].

He aint REAL. He aint the kinda guy who should ever be allowed to get into a CAB. And, he'll never be a FORCE to reckon with.

Ignore him, and let's get onto the real issues that matter.

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"Ignore him, and let's get onto the real issues that matter."

Yes Let's have a proper debate about the issues that are important.

First off, the rise, if it is passed, and the proposed night bus fare surcharge of £2! for weekend nights.

Secondly the survey?

Thirdly, property rights, for people who in good faith paid for their plate.

Fourth, representation, associations and the like.

fifth, licensing, enforcement issues etc

sixth, the competition.


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More later, I'm off for now.


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Realcabforceforum wrote:
ALI T wrote:
ach you spoilt ma fun tdo the 24 hours aint up

actually the so called quote from a support forum, is in fact the short description of the software in question.
however having spoken by email to the author he assures me that the software cannot be used to read pm.s (as i suspected if you read the description) that are encrypted in the database.
the software is for the managment of the pm database i:e size location and so on
not a nosey parkers tool and in no way can this piece of quoted software read pm's in the encrypted database.
of course that doesnt mean thier isnt a way to do it?? :oops:
but realcabforce obvoiusly doesnt know what hes talking about and has resorted to telling porkies.
realcabforce if you want to research something do it properly geezuz we got twenty odd post becouse of the [edited by admin] you spouted . less bullchit pleeeeease



This will be a another case of you guys getting in touch with the owners to back your case, just like the hotel nonsense. :lol: :lol: Who did you speak to Ali?, Mr Bond maybe :lol:

no the authors name is billy sauls.
youre obviously living in the past realcabforcefive most people these days no what encryption is and dont think its a word used by spies (mr bond)
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just like these days most people agree that restrictive practicies are a thing of the past also :wink:


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have to agree with some of youre points regarding lunatics
jasbar but heh! it cheers me up and i aint quite bored with him yet,but as far as the edinburgh trade goes i must differ on opinion, i think weve long past the crossroads and the trade was put off into a siding a long ways back.
hopefully the trade can be pulled back (thats if the tracks are still thier) into the position it was previously in.
however
critics must be dealt with especially when the lies are so transparent.


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Sirius wrote:
"Thirdly, property rights, for people who in good faith paid for their plate.



That was exhaustively tested in Royden v Wirral a couple of years ago, and there are no property rights protectable in law. The Court of Appeal gave the appellants short shrift as well.

It should go without saying that anyone buying a plate is taking a gamble, so it's a bit rich to then cry foul if numbers are de-limited - there's certainly no complaints when values are increasing, so why should there be when they are decreasing?

Of course, some people may not know they are taking such a risk, perhaps they are being misled by people with a vested interest in plate values?

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Dont know about that TDO, if that is the system in force at the time and the Government and local Authorities allow it to carry on, it seems a bit rich to then turn round and say it's a gamble, you lose, hard luck.


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Sirius wrote:
Dont know about that TDO, if that is the system in force at the time and the Government and local Authorities allow it to carry on, it seems a bit rich to then turn round and say it's a gamble, you lose, hard luck.



I take your point Sirius but know-one told anyone it was anything more than a gamble. If you walk in with your eyes wide open and everything goes pear shaped then I don't see how you can blame anyone else .

Personal responsibility takes a part in everything we do and crying over spilled milk isn't the answer either.

I don't see many plate holders kicking up a stink when they are selling their plates or puting up rentals.
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Well, I actually agree with you on that Skull, but why should there not be an exit strategy for incumbent plate holders, I do not hold them responsible for ths, I hold the Authorities responsible.

Perhaps JD could tell us how much money has been removed from the plate owners in England and Wales since the OFT report, I am sure it must be huge, I contend that it was wrong not to fully consider the affect that premium removal would have on incumbant plate holders, there should have been an exit strategy of some sort, I also believe (perhaps wrongly) that the value accrued over a period of time must be subject to some sort of property right laws, it has a value, someone owns it (sort of) so it is thier property albeit an intangible property, but it is still something you own.


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Sirius wrote:
Perhaps JD could tell us how much money has been removed from the plate owners in England and Wales since the OFT report, I am sure it must be huge.

I beg to differ.

The total plate values of those cabs that have de-limited is exactly the same as when the council issued them in the first place. :wink:

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Perhaps JD could tell us how much money has been removed from the plate owners in England and Wales since the OFT report, I am sure it must be huge.

I beg to differ.

The total plate values of those cabs that have de-limited is exactly the same as when the council issued them in the first place. :wink:


I seem to recall a thread about the values, was there?


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Sirius wrote:
I seem to recall a thread about the values, was there?

That's a value that some are prepared to pay to jump the waiting list and can be found on TDO's frontpage www.taxi-driver.co.uk under restrictions latest.

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