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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:46 pm 
i think the days of tuk tuk limited getting much more nice headlines are slim.
people ride them once.
then realise how deadly they are. :sad:
it looks like even the anti taxi argus are even thinking twice about them.

one think the tuk tuk tw** hasnt condidered is that the local cab trade are clued up. and though they might be quiet loads is happening behind the sceens. :wink:

was a rumour mr tuk tuk wants to reduce his timetable to stop the traffic commissioner pulling the plug on him.
watch this space.
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i think the days of tuk tuk limited getting much more nice headlines are slim.
people ride them once.
then realise how deadly they are. :sad:
it looks like even the anti taxi argus are even thinking twice about them.

one think the tuk tuk tw** hasnt condidered is that the local cab trade are clued up. and though they might be quiet loads is happening behind the sceens. :wink:

was a rumour mr tuk tuk wants to reduce his timetable to stop the traffic commissioner pulling the plug on him.
watch this space.


Good to see you guys in Brighton are keeping a watchful eye on their timetable, the operator can however apply to amend their timetable anytime they like. Even if the timetable is amended they still have to keep to it, this could leave them in the situation where they have to run vehicles at a loss?

The probable reason behind the amended timetable is lack of customers. If this state of affairs continues over a long period of time then the business won't be viable.

Operating such a service under PSV regulations leaves very little room for flexibility.

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Operating such a service under PSV regulations leaves very little room for flexibility.

From memory a bus time-table must be met at least 96% of the time Ribble-v-some bus mob 2001 I think.

They are allowed to be 5 mins late or 1 min early, but they must run.

If I was advising the B&H trade I would suggest they get an independant firm of traffic consultants to assess the tuk tuk time-table.

Might cost sheds loads of cash, but could well lead to the traffic commissioner putting a condition on their license that they can't operate.

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Sussex wrote:
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Operating such a service under PSV regulations leaves very little room for flexibility.

From memory a bus time-table must be met at least 96% of the time Ribble-v-some bus mob 2001 I think.

They are allowed to be 5 mins late or 1 min early, but they must run.

If I was advising the B&H trade I would suggest they get an independant firm of traffic consultants to assess the tuk tuk time-table.

Might cost sheds loads of cash, but could well lead to the traffic commissioner putting a condition on their license that they can't operate.


http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/markup.cg ... 1/267.html

As far as I'm aware you are right about the 5 minutes window and probably the one-minute window also. The Ribble case I've posted above.

Not keeping to a timetable is a serious breach of condition and I would think the Tuk Tuk business model is already feeling the strains of running its business on such limited flexibility.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:47 pm 
i have heard that the tuk tuk p[eople are going to apply and have their timetable shortened.
but they keep telling everyone threr doing fab. :^o :^o
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i have heard that the tuk tuk p[eople are going to apply and have their timetable shortened.
but they keep telling everyone threr doing fab. :^o :^o


How many routes do they have? If you could get hold of one of their timetables I'm sure it would make interesting reading on TDO.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:32 pm 
http://www.tuctuc.co.uk/flashsite.html

on the timetable it says they can do the route in 20 mins.
at most times they couldnt do it in double that. :shock:
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Birmingham Evening Mail

August 11, 2006, Friday

HEADLINE: A big tut-tut from cabbies over safety of tuk-tuks

A NEW tuk-tuk service introduced in Brighton and due to be rolled out in cities across the UK could be putting passengers at risk. This is the view of Taxi-wise, the nationwide campaign for the safer use of taxis, following the recent launch of the service.

A dozen of the tiny vehicles, which are popular in India, are now available to carry passengers on the basis that they are good for the environment.

However, Taxiwise argues that the vehicles offer practically no protection in the event of an accident.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hanoi_Tuktuk.jpg
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:05 pm 
word on the streeyt is that the tuk tuk are going to an enquirey early Oct.
by all accounts the trade appointed a independant firm of consultants and they ripped to sreads the tuk tuk timetable.
but more importantly the traffic commissioner has also monitored the timetable and they have only met 40 odd % of it.
in other words the operator is in the poo big time. \:D/ \:D/ \:D/
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word on the streeyt is that the tuk tuk are going to an enquirey early Oct.
by all accounts the trade appointed a independant firm of consultants and they ripped to sreads the tuk tuk timetable.
but more importantly the traffic commissioner has also monitored the timetable and they have only met 40 odd % of it.
in other words the operator is in the poo big time. \:D/ \:D/ \:D/


That will be a nice piece of advertising for Mr. Tuk Tuk.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:00 am 
one down. few more to go. :D

http://www.theargus.co.uk/display.var.9 ... f_road.php
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:18 pm 
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one down. few more to go. :D

spoke too soon.
hopefully the commissioner will them them all to tuk off. :D :D :D :D

Section 5

Section 5.1 Notice Of Public Inquiries To Be Held

A transcript of the taped proceedings of Public Inquiries (either in full
or in part) may be ordered from the Traffic Area Office Compliance Unit.
The cost of the transcript varies according to demand and size of content
and the Compliance Unit will be able to advise on the scale of charges when
an order is placed.

Appeals in connection with PSV Operator Licences must be lodged with the
Transport Tribunal, Procession House, 55 Ludgate Hill, London EC4M 7JW not
later than 28 days after the date of the letter conveying the Traffic
Commissioner’s (or Deputy Traffic Commissioner’s) decision. A copy of the
appeals booklet is available from the Traffic Area Office on request.
Appellants can alternatively obtain guidance on lodging appeals by visiting
the VOSA website at www.vosa.gov.uk

Public Inquiry (33231) to be held at Court Room(SEMTA), Ivy House, Ivy
Terrace, Eastbourne, East Sussex, BN21 4QT, on 03 October 2006
commencing at 10:00(Previous Publication:(2102)

PK1047478 SN
TUC-TUC LIMITED
Director(s): DOMINIC PONNIAH.
42 CAMBRIDGE ST LONDON SW1V 4QH

PSV - S26 - Consideration of disciplinary action under Section 26 (The
Transport Act 1985) |
PSV - S155 - Consideration of action under Section 155 (The Transport
Act 2000)
PSV - S17 - Consideration of disciplinary action under Section 17 (The
Public Passenger Vehicles Act 1981)
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Yes, its heartning to see the B&H trade and companies have put aside any small differences to eliminate a major one, these things were deemed a nuisance before they even took to the streets, but the ivory tower always knows best? [-(

Lets hope if, and thats still a big 'if' they ever appear on the streets of the capital the trade organisations will will fight the common goal.

I'll stand united with brother Terry, Ollie and Rambo to block the A23 into London. :wink:
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PK1047478 SN
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Director(s): DOMINIC PONNIAH.
42 CAMBRIDGE ST LONDON SW1V 4QH

PSV - S26 - Consideration of disciplinary action under Section 26 (The
Transport Act 1985) |
PSV - S155 - Consideration of action under Section 155 (The Transport
Act 2000)
PSV - S17 - Consideration of disciplinary action under Section 17 (The
Public Passenger Vehicles Act 1981)[/b]


This has been on the cards, I believe the only reason these vehicles were introduced is because they thought they could get away with plying for hire as hackney carriages.

This is the first step in getting them to comply with the legislation they are licensed under. If they are found to have breached licensing conditions and they get a warning to their future conduct then a second breach of conditions could prove fatal.

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