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It's a good job you reconsidered your appraisal of the events in Bromsgrove otherwise we may have got into another protracted debate about private hire cross border hiring.


Damn, you mean we agree?

Now this Shanks case thing..... :wink:

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Really?

What's the difference between a free-phone and a free-phone number?

My view is that you having a free-phone outside your area is fine as long as you only use vehicles licesned in the same area as your office.

I know some areas don't like it, but even if you are in one of those why don't you use just make your free-phones direct lines instead?

Then they are classed as an exstension of your office as they don't go through any other area's exchange.
So your saying Mr D has been under a misconception, for years, believing it was illegal to set up a free telephone line to supermarkets, hotels ,stations etc out side his licensed area . Do you realise the potential, he has 1200 cars now . He is most likly, on the phone now making, a appointment with his legal team. Wanting to no why, they have been feeding him iffy info for years. Streetcars


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So your saying Mr D has been under a misconception, for years, believing it was illegal to set up a free telephone line to supermarkets, hotels ,stations etc out side his licensed area . Do you realise the potential, he has 1200 cars now.

He is most likly, on the phone now making, a appointment with his legal team. Wanting to no why, they have been feeding him iffy info for years. Streetcars


I don't know how misconceived MR D is but private hire or hackney carriage Radio Companies in England or Wales can have a dedicated line from their office to anywhere in the country, or even a free 0800 number, or whatever? Providing the private hire company supplies vehicles and drivers licensed by the same local authority which license the private hire operator then they are not breaking the law.

I would be surprised if the owner of delta didn't already know this?

I would also be surprised if Liverpool cab drivers aren't already offering a good service to the local supermarkets?

Perhaps the real reason behind Deltas non-commitment to the Liverpool supermarket trade, is the cost of setting up a free phone from Liverpool to Sefton. Also the practicalities of being able to supply a decent service, especially considering the fact that not many drivers would be willing to sit in Liverpool and service local shoppers all day long while their colleagues are getting cream jobs in Sefton?

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Has the owner of Delta cars ever considered setting up a central hackney carriage radio system for the merseyside area?

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Damn, you mean we agree?

Now this Shanks case thing.


Isn't that the case where Cherri Booth wanted to take it to the Lords? Same thing wasn't it, cross border hiring?

The rules are simple, all three private hire licenses have to be issued by the same authority were the booking provision is made. Quite simple when you say it like that.

The law leaves little room for manoeuvre in respect of private hire.


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Damn, you mean we agree?

Now this Shanks case thing.


Isn't that the case where Cherri Booth wanted to take it to the Lords? Same thing wasn't it, cross border hiring?

The rules are simple, all three private hire licenses have to be issued by the same authority were the booking provision is made. Quite simple when you say it like that.

The law leaves little room for manoeuvre in respect of private hire.


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Thats the one JD but there was two firms, one in the Toon and one in N. Tyneside.

They wanted to sub contract the work to each other.

Very interesting if not confusing!

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Thats the one JD but there was two firms, one in the Toon and one in N. Tyneside.

They wanted to sub contract the work to each other.


They should have used hackney carriage vehicles. lol

I think its pretty well established now and if any operator tries it on then they can't be very bright.

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As this is a private hire Issue, and knowing Mr D,s corporate lawyers are one of the best firms in the country, I'm sure that his advice would be correct...but I vaguely seem to recollect something to do with the touting law..... :roll:

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This is just for J D's benefit, remember you heard it here first, :D :D there will be a meeting tomorrow... :shock: :shock: .

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As this is a private hire Issue, and knowing Mr D,s corporate lawyers are one of the best firms in the country, I'm sure that his advice would be correct...but I vaguely seem to recollect something to do with the touting law..... :roll:


Correct about what? If its about placing a direct line in a supermarket then they are incorrect. But Mr D mentioned the illegality stemmed from the 1976 act so we have yet to see this new interpretation of the act?

He said, There's just one snag. Due to the current interpretaion of the Government Miscellaneous Provisions act it is not legal for a Private Hire Operator to operate a free-phone from within a neighbouring licensing authority. It's an interpretation we disagree with but one we respect none the less.

We await to see where this snag lies because Sussex, the Captain and I don't see any snag. Touting has nothing whatsoever to do it but if you are of the opinion that Mr Delta is right then perhaps you can show us where he is right?

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This is just for J D's benefit, remember you heard it here first, :D :D there will be a meeting tomorrow... :shock: :shock: .


lol I wish them good luck, my money is on a barrier system of some sort, always supposing that a barrier can be fixed at the place they ply for hire?

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I am sure Mr D will explain if he wishes, as I said before it is a private hire issue as far as I'm concerned, but I do vaguely remember something to do with dedicated telephone line and touting, now whether or not it was just some fictional cab trade made up nonsense I do not know..

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I also believe that Mr bully beef has been given a rollicking for taking part in a press release without the authorisation of the Union..

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In fact you can advertise on your cars making Sefton private hire a small fortune. This whole farce makes Taxi regulation at a local level a absolute joke. Streetcars


Adverts for Samaritans, Campaign Against Living Miserably (CALM) and Addaction are being displayed on the back doors of Delta taxis. This is after Delta Garages, based on Mersey Road, Blundellsands, donated the space on its own fleet of 100 private hire rental cars to the three worthy causes.Bosses at Delta, which has its headquarters on Moor Lane, Crosby, also covered all costs for artwork, printing and installation. Delta company secretary, Paul McLaughlin, said the gesture seemed “such a simple thing to do.” He added: “There’s nothing fluffy or appealing about depression or addiction, making the promotion of these charities even more of a challenge. “The valuable work they do is no less important, however, so Delta was more than happy to assist in raising their profile with this simple gesture.”

The donation to the charities came after Delta launched its own campaign to allow them to sell advertising on their taxis – an extra source of income enjoyed by Hackney cabs but not private hire vehicles. While Sefton Council’s licensing committee was not prepared to allow a full livery advert, they gave the green light to the small back door signs. Samaritans provides 24-hour a day confidential, emotional support for people experiencing feelings of distress or despair, including those which may lead to suicide. Trish Willoughby, director of Liverpool and Merseyside Samaritans, said: “We would just like to thank Delta for their generosity. “The advertising we got from them is absolutely beyond our wildest dreams and certainly beyond our budget. “Most important of all, it gives our number to people who may need us, not only over the festive period, but throughout the year.” CALM is targeted at young men between 15 and 35, offering them help, information and advice via a phone and web service. Addaction is a leading UK charity working solely in the field of drug and alcohol treatment.

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For all of those in the taxi/PH that put a little back into the community, I say very well done and long may it continue.

Maybe it should be a condition of license. :D

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