Taxi Driver Online

UK cab trade debate and advice
It is currently Tue Apr 28, 2026 5:25 am

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:53 pm
Posts: 10381
We've all been given the nonsense about restricted authorities operating a so-called double shift system and how it benefits the public over an unrestricted system. Well here is the evidence that these guys are talking through their backside.

This is Altrincham Town centre at five to three on a Friday morning. Trafford's Main Taxi rank situated in the Town centre and directly outside the Station. Note the time on the clock and not a cab in sight. The person who took the pic waited 30 minutes to see if cabbies turned up to offer a service? You guessed it, they didn't.

Image

.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:46 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu May 26, 2005 7:33 pm
Posts: 1117
Location: City of dreaming spires
dont see anyone around, he could have walked to another rank! or was it you just parked up with time on his hand, testing his new toy?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:28 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2004 4:28 pm
Posts: 8998
Location: London
JD wrote:
Note the time on the clock and not a cab in sight.
.


Nor anyone else by the looks of it. :D

I'd be on my way home as well if this was the scene that greeted me.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:41 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:26 pm
Posts: 8529
JD wrote:
We've all been given the nonsense about restricted authorities operating a so-called double shift system and how it benefits the public over an unrestricted system. Well here is the evidence that these guys are talking through their backside.

This is Altrincham Town centre at five to three on a Friday morning. Trafford's Main Taxi rank situated in the Town centre and directly outside the Station. Note the time on the clock and not a cab in sight. The person who took the pic waited 30 minutes to see if cabbies turned up to offer a service? You guessed it, they didn't.

Image

.



It just goes to show how effective the double shift system is, 3 o'clock everyone home in bed, job done...
:wink:

_________________
Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:39 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:53 pm
Posts: 10381
lol, some interesting replies but I thought the double shift system meant that cabs were available all through the night, regardless of who was out and about? It would appear to me you guys are suggesting that the T&G, NTA and NWTA or NTTG whatever you want to call them, were having us over? It would appear that TDO was right all along when it said "drivers won't hang around when there is no work to hang around for", regardless of what system is in place?

If any picture spoke a thousand words, that is surely it.

Regards

JD


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:57 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:26 pm
Posts: 8529
JD wrote:
lol, some interesting replies but I thought the double shift system meant that cabs were available all through the night, regardless of who was out and about? It would appear to me you guys are suggesting that the T&G, NTA and NWTA or NTTG whatever you want to call them, were having us over? It would appear that TDO was right all along when it said "drivers won't hang around when there is no work to hang around for", regardless of what system is in place?

If any picture spoke a thousand words, that is surely it.

Regards

JD
You're right, the system obviously works well, so if it's not broke don't try to fix it.

_________________
Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:02 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:53 pm
Posts: 10381
MR T wrote:
JD wrote:
lol, some interesting replies but I thought the double shift system meant that cabs were available all through the night, regardless of who was out and about? It would appear to me you guys are suggesting that the T&G, NTA and NWTA or NTTG whatever you want to call them, were having us over? It would appear that TDO was right all along when it said "drivers won't hang around when there is no work to hang around for", regardless of what system is in place?

If any picture spoke a thousand words, that is surely it.

Regards

JD
You're right, the system obviously works well, so if it's not broke don't try to fix it.


But what happens if my friends and I come out of the building facing the Taxi rank and we want a cab? Do we hang around until one comes or start walking?

Regards

JD


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:18 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:26 pm
Posts: 8529
Take out your mobile and ring for a private hire. :wink:

_________________
Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:50 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:53 pm
Posts: 10381
MR T wrote:
Take out your mobile and ring for a private hire. :wink:


lol but wouldn't that constitute unmet demad and defeat the purpose of restricitng hackney carriage numbers if private hire had to fill my demand? I thought the T&G etc, told us all that double shifted cabs cured unmet demand?

Regards

JD


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:57 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:25 pm
Posts: 37494
Location: Wayneistan
Nice photograph, although a little blurry.

The cabbies were possibly having their emissions checked, they like to do that kind of thing in trafford, you'd have possibly had more chance of a cab if you went to the service station.

regards

CC

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:32 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:26 pm
Posts: 8529
JD wrote:
MR T wrote:
Take out your mobile and ring for a private hire. :wink:


lol but wouldn't that constitute unmet demad and defeat the purpose of restricitng hackney carriage numbers if private hire had to fill my demand? I thought the T&G etc, told us all that double shifted cabs cured unmet demand?

Regards

JD


So you're arguing that ranks should be fully manned 24 hours a day whether there is work or not............. somehow I don't really think anyone would accept that as being reasonable..... :wink:

_________________
Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:42 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:53 pm
Posts: 10381
MR T wrote:
So you're arguing that ranks should be fully manned 24 hours a day whether there is work or not............. somehow I don't really think anyone would accept that as being reasonable..... :wink:


I'm not arguing anything of the sort, I'm drawing the conclusions of the real world and the unreal world, which is part and parcel of the propaganda spoken by those who live in the unreal world and I have no need to point out who those people are?

Do you recall what Mr Damien Edwards of Liverpool City Council told us about the double shift system?

“I have a fear that if you increase the number of hackney carriage drivers there will be no surplus to double-shift vehicles, and that may impact on the availability of taxi cabs at peak periods, despite having more vehicles.

Or Mr Roger Sealey of the T&G

I was talking to somebody today who was saying that there is significant unmet demand at night now because taxi drivers are working the day shift and there are not sufficient working the night shift because the market has been derestricted.

And our dear old friend Mr Peter Kavanagh who said:

It is very much the case that in areas like Manchester and Liverpool that now have a restricted system there is what we call the double shift and even sometimes three shifts in a day, so that vehicle is actually "used around the clock".

So its patently obvious that these people were talking about cabs working around the clock as Mr Kavanagh points out.

I don't know what your opinion is now? But we certainly knew what it was then? If you would like to put a different spin on the double shift system and explain what you think it means, then by all means do so.

Regards

JD


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:36 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:26 pm
Posts: 8529
JD A great many people have put points of view across, they have put them across in their own way , I am more than sure they have formed their opinion one way or another, Damien has been in the Liverpool licensing department since he was a boy, and lived through the farce of Liverpool being D-reg, I'm sure he is quite capable of looking at Birmingham which is D- regulated, I think you know the city, a city where people cannot get licensed vehicles late at night, and un-licensed vehicles are out of control. To me the picture you have shown is proof of a first class Taxi service the , everyone home in bed including the Taxi drivers' when their work is finished. they seemed very professional.

_________________
Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:40 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:30 pm
Posts: 57342
Location: 1066 Country
MR T wrote:
Take out your mobile and ring for a private hire. :wink:

Or wait and flag a PH down. :roll:

_________________
IDFIMH


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:47 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:26 pm
Posts: 8529
Sussex wrote:
MR T wrote:
Take out your mobile and ring for a private hire. :wink:

Or wait and flag a PH down. :roll:


Can't you lot afford mobile phones ? , it's much easier you know!!

_________________
Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 207 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group