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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 2:34 am 
You say that the topic is closed.

With respect Dusty, considering that I am the one who has been tarred with accusation of making the post in the first place, I think I should have the last word on this.

The first one did come from my pc, if I had known at the time I would have taken steps to get it deleted straight away. But since then I have taken measures that it would not happen again. I would be pretty damn stupid to let it happen again dont you think!!

I did not make the posting. It did not come from my pc. It could not have
come from my IP address. It is impossible. My IP address is still 195.93.33.11 and you can check from this posting. So Dusty you are WRONG. Go back and re-check or get someone who knows what they are doing to check.

The IP was one element of the evidence, I can't tell you the other things

Yeah.. because there are no other things!

My God !! Why and I wasting my time even answering this, why the hell am I defending myself......who cares anyway!!!!

But it is probably the same reason as to why "Anti this and Anti that! is a header news on Index page, you and I feel injustice has been made and both partys are on the defence.

Anyway. keep up the good work providing news on this site....that is what I find interesting ...not the bitchy comments from some :wink:

Scanner

Ps I still think it should membership only on here.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 5:24 am 
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98 registered users... and about 6 contributers... mostly from admin!!!! What a great forum!!! Has the admin set this forum up for their
own benefit!!! Incestuous is the correct word here!!!! And totally biased.


Anyway, to whoever made the post, there are a lot more than 6 contributors, but some certainly post more than others!

It's not for the admin's benefit only, because anyone can post on it, if they choose not to then that's fine, but it's there if they want to.

But most people view the posts rather than post - because you don't have to register to view the posts a lot of people don't register - if we required registration then I'm sure we would have a few hundred members.

Some of the other forums have had several hundred members (I think one had nearly a thousand) but no more posters than this one, and not much more looking in than posting either.

Dusty


From someone who doesn't normally frequent forums (only this one) such as myself, I would like to say that the formula used here is probably the right one. An open unrestricted forum is testimony that free speach prevails over personal prejudice. I suspect there will be many people who have no desire to register but that does not mean they cannot make a worthwhile contribution.

I also think most people who subscribe to this forum by virtue of input are probably more than capeable of dealing with adverse comments. It is also a good idea to have unrestricted access. Other forums may wish to deny those seeking knowledge by virtue of pre registration but that will only serve to benefit a site such as this, which has no restrictive access. I'm sure that if need be the moderation of some unwanted posts can be catered for but I've always found that the least moderation that occurs the longer free speach will reign.

Best wishes.

John Davies.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 8:38 am 
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My God !! Why and I wasting my time even answering this, why the hell am I defending myself......who cares anyway!!!!


Exactly.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 11:09 am 
AOL and NTL can Give the same Ip addresses out.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 3:04 pm 
Well thats good to know.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 9:16 pm 
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I still think it should membership only on here.


Bit ironic from someone who persists in posting as a guest, particularly when they do have a registered identity.

Dusty


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 9:21 pm 
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perhaps his name is guest?

from that line of famous guests, guest house etc

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I did not make the posting. It did not come from my pc. It could not have
come from my IP address. It is impossible. My IP address is still 195.93.33.11 and you can check from this posting. So Dusty you are WRONG. Go back and re-check or get someone who knows what they are doing to check.



Well I can only go by the IP that the post shows Mr Scanner, so if you don't mind I won't bother asking someone who 'knows what they are doing to check', but I'll try to explain it in simple terms so that an expert like yourself can explain where I'm going wrong.

The disputed post, and the two made by Actual News, which you agree were made by your computer, show the IP address 195.93.33.8.

This IP also accounts for 94 of the 108 posts you made under your registered identity 'Scanner' and also many of your posts made as guests.

The post that I'm replying to also shows the same IP, which is slightly different to the one that you are claiming it was made from.

I don't disbelieve that you are genuine about your IP, but this is not what is shown at this end. The cynic in me suspects that you have used a different computer to send the disputed post and thought that this would mean the post was not connected to you, but for whatever reasons at this end they all show the same IP - this is presumably something to do with AOL broadband's system, perhaps you should ask them, if you 'don't know what you are doing'. :wink:

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The IP was one element of the evidence, I can't tell you the other things

Yeah.. because there are no other things!

My God !! Why and I wasting my time even answering this, why the hell am I defending myself......who cares anyway!!!!



My suspicions weren’t only based on the more than coincidental IP addresses. Lots of anon/guest posts are clearly made by the same people, and you often only have to skim read their posts to realise who they are from – having been a forum regular for a couple of years now and given that I’ve read hundreds of posts by a limited number of people people, this obviously makes it a bit easier for me to spot them, particularly in view of the relatively small number of people posting on internet forums.

Some things stand out immediately, such as writing and punctuation style, consistent punctuation and spelling mistakes, consistent phraseology, the type of arguments used and other idiosyncrasies.

To that extent, with the IP evidence narrowing things down substantially, the anon posts certainly looked very like those made in the past by Mr Scanner, and on closer inspection I’m more sure than ever that he authored not only the disputed post, but also the two that he admitted were made from his computer.

Please remember that the comments below are made in the context of over 6,000 post on here, and possibly the best part of one million words(?)


The disputed post is:
98 registered users... and about 6 contributers... mostly from admin!!!! What a great forum!!! Has the admin set this forum up for their
own benefit!!! Incestuous is the correct word here!!!! And totally biased.


The two posts that Scanner admits were made from his computer were:
I was recently told about this forum. Huh.Call this a forum? The core of this site is totally biased. I only look at it for actual news. The rest is total crap and pure drival with certain contributers using it make to up for their sad lives who want what others have but cant get it. I dont know how some of the contributers on here can afford the time that they do.
Here ends my first and only posting on here as it isnt worth tuppence.

Clearly biased and totally prejudice outlook. Full of jealousy. Your view is marred by your own particular wants. You stereotype all hackney drivers. Yet I bet you would jump up and down if ph drivers were stereotyped as the dreaded unlicensed minicab trade. My God! Why do I even bother looking at this drival.


One thing that stands out immediately is the misspelling of the word ‘contributers’ in the disputed post. Funnily enough, that mistake was also used one of the posts which Scanner admits were made from his computer. Using the forum’s search facility shows that the word was used on about four other occasions, by Scanner twice, and Mick twice (and his IP is totally different). (If you use the search facility to look for particular words, it also throws up posts that have quoted or repeated the word in question, and I’ve obviously ignored them).

There are also other interesting words that, although fairly commonplace, don’t get used to often on here. ‘Jealousy’, for example. Again that is used in one of the posts that Scanner admits came from his computer. The only other use of the word on the forum was made by Scanner in the Brighton cartel thread:

‘You are full of jealousy’

Another interesting word is ‘biased’. Again not an unusual word, but not often used on this forum. But it’s used in all three of the posts above, including the two that Scanner admits were made from his computer. Apart from posts replying to that use of the word, the word has only been used a handful of times, and in totally unrelated contexts.

‘Stereotype’ is also used by Scanner’s ‘friends’ in the post above. The only other use of the word ‘stereotype’ is again by Scanner in the Brighton cartel thread.


Another pointer is the tenor of the disputed posts – the argument and tone of the disputed post is very similar to the two Scanner admits was made from his computer.

There are also more specific examples of this. For example, Scanner’s 'friends' said:

My God! Why do I even bother looking at this drival.

Last night Scanner said:

My God !! Why and I wasting my time even answering this…

I can only find one other example of ‘my god’.

And someone is certainly wasting their time here, but I don’t think it’s me.

Another pointer is the idiosyncratic use of full stops to connect half sentences…this is used in the disputed post…have a look above.

Scanner’s posts are riddled with this, for example, in reply to my accusation that the disputed post above was made by him:

For your information Mr Bin... and Sussex.. no one has been near my pc.

Scanner’s posts are riddled with this style of sentence, how many other people do that so consistently?

Well, I’ve wasted enough time on this, so that’s enough for now.


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ted rogers, dusty bin & a budding inspector clueso i think! :lol:

you'll catch that pigeon eventually

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