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 Post subject: New Licensing Needed.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:03 pm 
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The staus of Taxis-Hackney Carriages has been eroded since the introduction of PH.

* Taxi owners need to stand up and fight back to re-asert their historic position.

* The Public understand Taxi-Hackney Carriage they do not relate to PH.

* No-one books a PH, everybody asks for a Taxi.

Because of the blurr created by the PH operators the Public are confused, they think the terms are interchangeable or mean the same thing. They ask for a Taxi but very often get a PH, they are being misled. If you ask for and are paying for a Taxi that is what you should get anything less is a deception.

I want to see the introduction of a new license.

A LICENSE TO OPERATE A TAXI ON A CIRCUIT OR AS A COMPANY.
Individual Taxis working from a rank would not be required to have a seperate license only those that advertise or use an agent (radio circuit).

The terms of the license. (TOL: Taxi Oerators License)

1) Only holders of a TOL can use the words or terms: TAXI, CAB, HACKNEY CARRIAGE etc, in any publication or media.

2) Only a Taxi can be used for a Taxi job. (no mixed fleets)

3) Taxis must advertise under a seperate heading in a defined section. ( no more confusing advertising, PH & Taxis lumped together)

4) News media must not use the words and terms in (1) unless the item specifically relates to a license holder. ( no more headlines: Taxi driver accused of.... only to find in the small print it was PH or unlicensed driver)

5) TOL holder need not be a plate holder or hold a taxi drivers license but must demonstrate that they are a fit and proper person told hold a license. ( This would be a valid use of a B-Tech type qualification rather than the farce that is the current Taxi B-Tech.

6) Admin of this License should be at a regional level similar to the Bus Operators. LA's can continue will local issues fares, driver licensing etc.

7) Only holders of a valid TOL can advertise Taxi services or tender for the provision of Taxis services. (stop the resellers of freephones in prime locations)

REVISION OF PH LICENSE.

1) To be a valid booking it must have, passengers name, number of passengers, time, pick-up, destination and price. Every single job must have every element, no adhoc bookings from Airport Etc. only genuinely pre-booked jobs. A contract for each job.

2) PH must not have Taximeters fitted. Jobs pre-priced or at an hourly rate.

3) No makings that would mislead the Public into believing the vehicle is a Taxi or available for hire other than through a booking agent that holds a PH operators Licence.

These points are only a basic outline but this is the path Taxi Owners need to take.
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Is there an echo in here Mr TescoTaxiTroll? :lol:

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TDO wrote:
Is there an echo in here Mr TescoTaxiTroll? :lol:


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You said my previous post was in the wrong section so I have tried to get this a licensing topic, into the correct area, so what is your problem now? I do not understand the Troll reference, what is a Troll and how is it relevent. Is it some in-joke amongst your band of wannabees ?


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REVISION OF PH LICENSE.

1) To be a valid booking it must have, passengers name, number of passengers, time, pick-up, destination and price. Every single job must have every element, no adhoc bookings from Airport Etc. only genuinely pre-booked jobs. A contract for each job.

2) PH must not have Taximeters fitted. Jobs pre-priced or at an hourly rate.

3) No makings that would mislead the Public into believing the vehicle is a Taxi or available for hire other than through a booking agent that holds a PH operators Licence.


We already do all that so what exactly is your point. I assume that the pre-booked job for hc will have similar contract especially if in an adjoining area.
We have no interest whatsoever of sitting on a rank for hours on end.

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We already do all that so what exactly is your point. I assume that the pre-booked job for hc will have similar contract especially if in an adjoining area.
We have no interest whatsoever of sitting on a rank for hours on end.
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You don't have meters ? Roof signs ? door stickers ?
only pre priced work ?
You must be the only ones in the country if you answer yes to all of the above. You never pick up from the street either I suppose.


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The public just want to get from A to B and don't really care wether it's a HC or a PH! They have the choice, just like we do wether we drive HC or PH cars. So if it's not broke why fix it?


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You said my previous post was in the wrong section so I have tried to get this a licensing topic, into the correct area, so what is your problem now?

The problem is that you haven't answered many questions in the other thread, so I doubt you will on this one. :wink:

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So if it's not broke why fix it?

Because T. is stuck in a glorious past that will never return. \:D/ \:D/

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T. wrote:
You said my previous post was in the wrong section so I have tried to get this a licensing topic, into the correct area, so what is your problem now?

The problem is that you haven't answered many questions in the other thread, so I doubt you will on this one. :wink:


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Well Amish Boy, I answered every question put directly to me. You are the one that resorted to profanities and personal insult because you are unable to respond with logical rational argument.


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The staus of Taxis-Hackney Carriages has been eroded since the introduction of PH.


In what way has the status of a hackney carriage been eroded since the introduction of Private hire. I can name you several authorities where private hire vehicles have less than a 5 percent ratio to hackney carriages so does your statement only apply to those hackney carriages in restricted areas or to every hackney carriages thoughout the land?

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JD wrote:
T. wrote:
The staus of Taxis-Hackney Carriages has been eroded since the introduction of PH.


In what way has the status of a hackney carriage been eroded since the introduction of Private hire. I can name you several authorities where private hire vehicles have less than a 5 percent ratio to hackney carriages so does your statement only apply to those hackney carriages in restricted areas or to every hackney carriages thoughout the land?

JD


What about the B-Tech question, why won't you answer. Why would it be a secret. ? Are yoiu financially involved or not. ?


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JD wrote:
T. wrote:
The staus of Taxis-Hackney Carriages has been eroded since the introduction of PH.


In what way has the status of a hackney carriage been eroded since the introduction of Private hire. I can name you several authorities where private hire vehicles have less than a 5 percent ratio to hackney carriages so does your statement only apply to those hackney carriages in restricted areas or to every hackney carriages thoughout the land?

JD


What about the B-Tech question, why won't you answer. Why would it be a secret. ? Are yoiu financially involved or not. ?


Like everyone else, I thought you might realise the stupidity of your question? obviously not.

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What about the B-Tech question, why won't you answer. Why would it be a secret. ? Are yoiu financially involved or not. ?


Are you going to reply to this innocuous question or shall we leave it on file?

In what way has the status of a hackney carriage been eroded since the introduction of Private hire? I can name you several authorities where private hire vehicles have less than a 5 percent ratio to hackney carriages so does your statement only apply to those hackney carriages in restricted areas or to every hackney carriages throughout the land?

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T. wrote:
What about the B-Tech question, why won't you answer. Why would it be a secret. ? Are yoiu financially involved or not. ?


Are you going to reply to this innocuous question or shall we leave it on file?

In what way has the status of a hackney carriage been eroded since the introduction of Private hire? I can name you several authorities where private hire vehicles have less than a 5 percent ratio to hackney carriages so does your statement only apply to those hackney carriages in restricted areas or to every hackney carriages throughout the land?

JD


Tell me Graham, If the private hire in Manchester next week where to discount their prices by 25 per cent would it not have a effect on the Hackney Trade,

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Tell me Graham, If the private hire in Manchester next week where to discount their prices by 25 per cent would it not have a effect on the Hackney Trade,


Well I can't answer for Graham but I'll answer for me.

I don't know, you tell me and how?

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