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Agree about what?

That you do mostly PH work in your HC WAV?

Not that I object, but GA doesn't like drivers choice and that dual use vehicles provide flexibility and thus a better service for the public.

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Yes, that's what I was getting at, but thanks for saving me the bother of spelling it out

However, you may be right that in the big cities generally PH outnumber WAVs (Manchester, Birmingham etc), but I seem to recall that in Edinburgh the WAVs outnumber the PH - c.1,300 WAV to c.900 PH?

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Are you on drugs Dusty ............. come on mate get yourself booked into rehab cause you've obviously left the world of commonsense.

I fight for drivers choice every day mate .............. and that's the choice to make money. I couldn't condone a half baked scheme like the one you suggest ................. and where did you get the phrase "dual use".

Your drug infused mind cannot possibly been taken seriously, and your suggestion only really makes one difference if you look at it logically, that being more delays in service for the customer.

If there are only expected to be 35 PH vehicles then those vehicles will sit in the areas where they know there is work, the HC vehicles will go and sit on the ranks to get two bites of this supposed cherry.
Now forgive me if I'm wrong here but I imagine the busiest ranks will be in the centre of the towns or cities and that the majority of the PH work will be in the suburbs.
With that in mind the 35 PH cars will be closer to the work and so more able to get to the required point quicker, so the HC get stranded on the ranks. However when the PH are all busy, and when you consider there is only expected to be 35 of them would be quite often, the HC will be expected to drive from the town or city centre out to the suburb to get the fare, meaning delays to the customer and increased dead mileage to the driver ............................ yeah I can really see the benefit to both the driver and the customer there mind

You will probably say "well the HC can sit in the suburbs" but if there is little or no work there from the ranks (cause most people phone PH) then there is no second bite of the cherry, although in order to get two bites of anything you don't need two opportunities to bite but two mouths and until we can be in two places at the same time (like CC apparently can) we can only have one bite at a time.

The only way to provide the public with better service is to provide enough vehicles to fulfil their needs, now you won't agree with this but that is because your not really interested in providing service to the customer, your only interested in whats best for Dusty Bin and your mates.

Now get off the drugs and back to commonsense country ............... what we need is the right people driving the right amount of vehicles, and the only way to achieve this is to hold regular surveys to ensure that public services are available in the areas they are needed.

B. Lucky

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TF pi$$ed on his chips.

Well if I'm on drugs that must make you comatose.

Why the concern with the pharse 'dual use', BTW?

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Shakespeare had his critics too Dusty ................ see if you can name three of them.



Because dual use would suggest that the vehicle could be used for two things at the same time .................... now I know you believe that certain models of the Rover 75 can be in two places at the same time, but in reality a vehicle can only be in one place doing one job at a time. If it is required somewhere else then it must travel there which in turn means that the customer has to wait for it to get there.

Now what were you saying about better service to the customer again

B. Lucky

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TF pi$$ed on his chips.

Don't know what the Rover 75 has to do with it, but I'll be charitable and assume that you've found a new wild goose to chase

As for the dual use business, yes I had worked out that a vehicle can't so used simultanesously, but almost every driver I know drives a dual use vehicle ie they work the ranks and the phones. And I doubt if they would prefer to be confined to either market, and I doubt if their customers would like that either.

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So Dusty -

If they were sitting on a rank and their data gave them,or their own phone rang with a job 6 miles away, would they be happy about going to do it?

Remember in this area there are only 35 PH, so the excuse that they wouldn't be the closest car (if they were on a PH co's data) isn't really a valid answer.

The Rover 75 issue relates to allegations made about CC being in 2 places at one time in his, allegations which were made on this, your forum.

B. Lucky

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TF pi$$ed on his chips.

Its a dual purpose vehicle.....its also apparently a tardis

CC

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Depends on where it's going.

But even if it was going local it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference if you were taxi or PH.

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No it doesn't ................. a fare is a fare and you are supposed to see the customer as the most important ............. or would the quality of service you offer differ depending on distance.



Nonsence ................. if your PH you sit in the areas you know there is work ........... if your a HC you sit where there are ranks (in order to get two bites of the cherry).

Or are you suggesting that the HC should sit in the area where there is work ..................... in which case going to the extra expense of the WAV seems a wee bit daft .......... do you not think.

B. Lucky

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TF pi$$ed on his chips.

Well clearly it depends on the specifics of the job, but if a HC doesn't like doing it then I doubt if a PH would either. Thus the issue is one between the car and the circuit and I can't see the point you're making.



That's why I didn't proffer that as my answer

There may only be 35 PH, but we're clearly talking about a small area here, so the small number has to be considered in context.




Oh I see.

But to say that it's my forum isn't entirely accurate.

And even if it was, I shouldn't be expected to know the contents and background to every post, surely?

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I can't really see the difference between how PH or HC on a circuit would view the scenario, thus I can't see your point.





If there's work in a particular area then I think you'll find that HCs on a circuit will sit there as well, and this may or may not depend on the presence of a rank.

I mean, an HC on a circuit at 8pm on Saturday won't career back to the city centre empty so he can get on a rank with all the street cars doing bog allwhen he knows that if he waits a few minutes then chances are he'll get a paid run into town.

I know that HCs in Gateshead perhaps prefer to do the run in for £1, but in other places they prefer a metered fare back

And it might be a flagged run as well, which is a bit difficult for PH at that time of the evening.





Well the WAV issue is a slightly different one, but as per my analysis above, why not?

It should be up to the driver to make the choice, not others in the trade or the authors of silly surveys.

It's called personal choice and market forces, concepts which seem alien to you.

Advise you take advice from someone who knows a bit more about the trade than Tez.

Even Captain Cab would do

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I think what seems to come through from this thread is that some dont actually give a t*ss about the existing trade.....or the views of the trade.

Its reasonably clear the existing trade there is a demand for saloon hackney carriages, its acknowledged that a mixed fleet is a viable option even by the DFT mobility unit, who recognise there are differing types of disability.

Yet you have a licensing officer who seems to flatly refuse to believe that this type of person should be able to access this type of service from a hackney carriage and must phone a private company.

Who made him god?

CC

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Is everyone thinking what I'm thinking?



"Normal" people only travel six miles for a job if its worth their while? The way you're talking it appears you're on a different planet?

Now please tell us you would travel six miles for a job that's going around the corner, that will make our day. lol



I keep reminding you that you have an awful lot to learn about the Taxi trade. Hackney carriage drivers who work the radio have a habit of sitting in areas where they know they will get work, what's the point of going back to town empty and furthermore what's the point of paying for a radio if your not going to use it?



Personally I think you used the word "daft" in the wrong context. Keep up the good work you're giving us a good laff.

JD

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Real world to GA world !!!

If someone rings you from, say, Carlisle, going to, say, Carlisle, are you going to run from Gateshead to do it.

No wonder your lot are always saying they're potless.

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