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No it doesn't ................. a fare is a fare and you are supposed to see the customer as the most important ............. or would the quality of service you offer differ depending on distance.

Real world to GA world !!!

If someone rings you from, say, Carlisle, going to, say, Carlisle, are you going to run from Gateshead to do it.

No wonder your lot are always saying they're potless. :shock:


No we'll merely go to Berwick license our HC there and operate in Wyre forest.....now thats a solution.

Or perhaps license ourselves in Salford or trafford and operate in manchester.

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Its reasonably clear the existing trade there is a demand for saloon hackney carriages, its acknowledged that a mixed fleet is a viable option even by the DFT mobility unit, who recognise there are differing types of disability.

Who made him god?


I think you'll find that God first arrived in London, then he spread himself out to various regions of the united Kingdom where he said let there be Wheelchair accessible vehicles. Wyre Forest are only following the decree of the NTA, the GMBU, the T&GWU and the other lot, who all state that councillors know whats best for their area? lol

You even said it yourself, didn't you?

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I think what seems to come through from this thread is that some dont actually give a t*ss about the existing trade.....or the views of the trade.


Well being a leading light in the NTA you'll be aware that in most areas the existing trade is all that the existing trade gives a toss about.

I think the point in Wyre Forest is that the views of the WHOLE trade are being considered, and that's why a level playing field is being implemented.

If the existing saloon HCs don't like it then they can go PH - in essence that was your argument regarding the Carlisle scenario, wasn't it?


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Its reasonably clear the existing trade there is a demand for saloon hackney carriages, its acknowledged that a mixed fleet is a viable option even by the DFT mobility unit, who recognise there are differing types of disability.


Yes, that must be why a mixed fleet exists in Carlisle but ISN'T allowed to exist at the main rank, a policy that you supported, didn't you?



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Yet you have a licensing officer who seems to flatly refuse to believe that this type of person should be able to access this type of service from a hackney carriage and must phone a private company.


So aren't the vast majority of LAs either all saloon or all WAV?

So why pick on Mr Wyre Forest?

I applaud him for promoting a level playing field at least.

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So who thinks they're God - those promoting a level playing field, or those telling drivers what kind of vehicle they must operate?

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That's the problem with some of our trade mandarins like GA and CC - they're so busy trying to play God themselves that when a level playing field is suggested then those suggesting it are accused of being God. [-(

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No we'll merely go to Berwick license our HC there and operate in Wyre forest.....now thats a solution.

Or perhaps license ourselves in Salford or trafford and operate in manchester.

Or maybe a Scottish PH license and then they don't even need an ops license . :shock:

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And again, isn't it GA and CC who uphold the current legislation?

Thus it's a bit rich to use shortcomings in the current legislation to make a point.

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Well , Three of you on here have made it very clear that the customer does not count, that service to the customer does not count, maybe that's why some people achieve more in their businesses than others.. isn't the customer the person that provides the money. and a small job one day can be a big job the next..... definitely a driver's logic. :oops:

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I'll take it that I'm right then :D

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Customers do count, but if drivers run 6 miles for a £2 job then customers would lose out due to there being no drivers left.

Have I missed something here or are drivers driving all over the place for f*** all. :shock:

Surely the ops would just tell the customer it will be a while, wait untill a car drops near, and then give him the job.

Or give the customer a local firm's number. :?

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MR T wrote:
Well , Three of you on here have made it very clear that the customer does not count, that service to the customer does not count, maybe that's why some people achieve more in their businesses than others.. isn't the customer the person that provides the money. and a small job one day can be a big job the next..... definitely a driver's logic. :oops:


When you start driving a cab for a living you might realise that running six miles for a two pound job is bordering on the stupidty. And if any radio operator asked a vehicle to travel six miles for a two pound job then he wan'ts his head examining. Perhaps the three guys you mentioned actually live in the real world?

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JD, I have more miles under my belt driving a taxi then you will ever have, and as for running six miles to cover a job , I have done it many times . any good Taxi Driver would know to keep his wheels turning, it takes you on to your next job , and you never know where that one will go. I suppose that is why, you sold your plate and I have bought more. :wink:

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JD, I have more miles under my belt driving a taxi then you will ever have, and as for running six miles to cover a job , I have done it many times . any good Taxi Driver would know to keep his wheels turning, it takes you on to your next job , and you never know where that one will go. I suppose that is why, you sold your plate and I have bought more. :wink:


lol you never cease to amaze me. You and GA must be the only drivers in the UK who will travel six miles for a two pound job. How many times a day will you do that?

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No we'll merely go to Berwick license our HC there and operate in Wyre forest.....now thats a solution.


Just in case anyone is mislead by the Captain's statement, when he says operate he means operate as a private hire vehicle. He is well aware that a hackney carriage licensed in one authority can't operate as a hackney carriage in another.

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I know what you mean and where your coming from.....but surely the LA saying well the people who cant get in WAV's can phone for a PH suggests the LA are aware that not all people can get into a WAV.


lol Do people who can't get into a WAV at Carlisles exclusive WAV taxi rank phone for a private hire vehicle? Do you think the Carlisle LA are aware of the fact that some passengers not only have real difficulty getting into a purpose built WAV but many desire not too? I suppose thats all part of Carlisles customer service?

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I think what seems to come through from this thread is that some dont actually give a t*ss about the existing trade.....or the views of the trade.


Perhaps Wyre Forest should come up with a condition that only allows WAVS to ply for hire on all their Taxi ranks and excludes vehicles from picking up within a 50 metre radius? lol Perhaps that might have the same desire as making WAVS mandatory?

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I think what seems to come through from this thread is that some dont actually give a t*ss about the existing trade.....or the views of the trade.


Carlisle springs to mind.

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Its reasonably clear the existing trade there is a demand for saloon hackney carriages,


lol but not in Carlisle?


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its acknowledged that a mixed fleet is a viable option even by the DFT mobility unit, who recognise there are differing types of disability.


Its a pity Carlisle doesn't see it that way? It would appear you are more than willing to criticise Wyre Forest for applying a condition which is perfectly legal, yet you take a completely different stance when it comes to excluding saloon vehicles from the busiest rank in Carlisle?

I was wondering how long it would take for your Carlisle inconsistency to come to light?

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Yet you have a licensing officer who seems to flatly refuse to believe that this type of person should be able to access this type of service from a hackney carriage and must phone a private company.


Perhaps he's following the example set by Carlisle?

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Who made him god?


Is this a reference to Carlisle council?

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