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I mean, even apart from the standards issue, a driver plating a car in unrestricted Lewes can easily afford to undercut a driver putting the same car on in Brighton, because the latter has a £40k loan to fund.


No the points over here Dusty .................. miles away from where your standing and looking.

If a driver plates a PH vehicle in unrestricted Lewes he can still undercut a PH driver licensed in Brighton because of differing standards.(allegedly)

The "restriction" argument ONLY remains relevant if your talking of issues relating SOLELY to HC ................ and I say that because PH don't have any quantative restrictions anywhere in the country .............. so the cost issue cannot be compared on the different issue which is plate values in this particular case or argument.

As far as your level playing field goes ....................... and we've been here before children ................ you don't want a level playing field you want a playing field that is slanted to your advantage. The fact remains as such ................ its just you cannot accept that arguments offered against your opinion are equally valid ................... so indeed this forum isn't even a level playing field because it is bias to the deregulation supporters club ................ members JD, TDO and little Sussex.

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The "restriction" argument ONLY remains relevant if your talking of issues relating SOLELY to HC ................ and I say that because PH don't have any quantative restrictions anywhere in the country .............. so the cost issue cannot be compared on the different issue which is plate values in this particular case or argument.


Eh?

We're talking about tendering for contracts, and that includes both HC and PH from various areas, so lots of different cost factors have to be considered.


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As far as your level playing field goes ....................... and we've been here before children ................ you don't want a level playing field you want a playing field that is slanted to your advantage.


:lol: Not this one again.

I don't want to dictate to drivers, I prefer letting them choose how to work, you want to choose for them, yet you say it's me who doesn't want a level playing field.

And the sky is green and the sea is orange :lol:


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The fact remains as such ................ its just you cannot accept that arguments offered against your opinion are equally valid ...................


And you do? :lol:

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so indeed this forum isn't even a level playing field because it is bias to the deregulation supporters club ................ members JD, TDO and little Sussex


Well at least we know where we stand - now take the GMB forum....members Tez, Brighton Breezy and GA, and not a word to say on the issue.

But for all Tezza's faults, he's certainly bang on re restricted numbers :D

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By the way, who said this, and is it biased?

"When I was in Brighton, where the PHV have access to bus lanes, I was told of a lovely little scam by Hackney Carriage plate holders, where the plate holder doesn't drive themselves but rents the cab out to two drivers. Now of course these drivers have no rights and are entirely at the mercy of the plate holder. Subsequently these drivers get the treatment, in Brighton plates exchange ownership for sums of up to £40,000, seems a bit of a scam to me. Would delimitation solve this problem, ? I've been told that it would. There is an organisation, which calls itself national and based in Carlisle, yeah that's right Carlisle, run by a clot who calls himself Captain Cab thinks £40,000 plates and Limited plates is a great idea. What do you think ? a free market economy or being crapped on by the Captain and his motley crew ?"

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By the way, who said this, and is it biased?

"When I was in Brighton, where the PHV have access to bus lanes, I was told of a lovely little scam by Hackney Carriage plate holders, where the plate holder doesn't drive themselves but rents the cab out to two drivers. Now of course these drivers have no rights and are entirely at the mercy of the plate holder. Subsequently these drivers get the treatment, in Brighton plates exchange ownership for sums of up to £40,000, seems a bit of a scam to me. Would delimitation solve this problem, ? I've been told that it would. There is an organisation, which calls itself national and based in Carlisle, yeah that's right Carlisle, run by a clot who calls himself Captain Cab thinks £40,000 plates and Limited plates is a great idea. What do you think ? a free market economy or being crapped on by the Captain and his motley crew ?"


lol You have a subtle way of making a point Dusty.

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GMB’s call for all taxis transporting vulnerable children in Brighton & Hove to meet the high standards set by the city council has been backed Brighton & Hove City Council Leader Simon Burgess.
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Ok! Just exactly what are Brightons high Taxi standards? Mr Doyle of the Brighton GMBU specifically states "all Taxis" should meet the high standards of Brighton and Hove city council. So lets start with those Taxis and the frequency of testing.

Brighton along with 15% of licensing authorities in the country have the lowest frequency of vehicle testing of all 343 authorities.

I have to ask this question, what does Mr Doyle mean when he says Brightons high Standards?

One test a year hardly qualifies as a high standard and the same can be said for London.

How about spot checks? Well it may surprise you but last year Brighton in conjunction with VOSA only undertook six spot checks of Taxi and private hire vehicles. So can someone please explain what these high standards are?

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I have to ask this question, what does Mr Doyle mean when he says Brightons high Standards?

One test a year hardly qualifies as a high standard and the same can be said for London.

How about spot checks? Well it may surprise you but last year Brighton in conjunction with VOSA only undertook six spot checks of Taxi and private hire vehicles. So can someone please explain what these high standards are?

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I think the point here is that more factors need to be taken into account than simply how many times the vehicles are required to attend a certain place at a certain time.

Maybe we should consider who actually conducts the test ................ is it any MOT testing station or is it the councils own vehicle tester at their own testing station.

Maybe we should consider the age requirements for vehicles in all areas concerned.

Maybe we should consider how often they spot check vehicles.

Maybe we should consider how likely any driver is to actually see their LO or EO while out at work.

Maybe we should consider the cost of licensing a vehicle.

Maybe we should consider the costs of licensing generally.

Maybe we should consider what we do ourselves ............... the pads need changing .................. but I'll get the weekend out of them.


There are many factors not being considered within this debate ................ and the people making the specific points are not considering them.

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Consider what you like.
But saying we are inferior was not on.
Implying it wasnt say for us to do Brighton council school work was not on.

Being accused by an organisation that pretends to represent drivers is also not on.

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Flyer wrote:
Consider what you like.
But saying we are inferior was not on.
Implying it wasnt say for us to do Brighton council school work was not on.

Being accused by an organisation that pretends to represent drivers is also not on.

Flyer


Flyer ................ no-one said that anyone was inferior or superior than anyone else. Councils policies were questioned ........... not individuals.

I wonder how high you'd be jumping of the tables were reversed.

The GMBPD cannot pretend to represent drivers because it has a remit from its members to represent them .................. or are you suggesting that an organisation should consider the implications of their various requests on non-members.

How long would you remain a member of a group that considered other peoples interests before your own?

Join a group thats winning and make them win for you.

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I think the point here is that more factors need to be taken into account than simply how many times the vehicles are required to attend a certain place at a certain time.


So your saying one test a year for Brighton is adequate and two tests a year for every other authority is inadequate?

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Maybe we should consider who actually conducts the test ................ is it any MOT testing station or is it the councils own vehicle tester at their own testing station.


So you are now suggesting that Brighton MOT testers are superior to every other MOT tester. Just how many parts on a saloon vehicle does a Brighton MOT Tester Test, that every other MOT Tester fails to test?

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Maybe we should consider the age requirements for vehicles in all areas concerned.


Maybe this, maybe that? The fact remains that Brighton has only one MOT test a year, which is the minimum requirement.

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Maybe we should consider how often they spot check vehicles.


How many vehicles out of 2000 combined hackney carriage and private hire can you spot check in one day or night?

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maybe we should consider how likely any driver is to actually see their LO or EO while out at work.


Why should you consider anything is it your job to make policy for Brighton council?

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Maybe we should consider the costs of licensing generally.


Moving off the beaten track a little aren't we? Why don't you concentrate on what was published on the GMBU website in respect of those vehicles and drivers that don't meet the same high standards of Brighton.

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Maybe we should consider what we do ourselves ............... the pads need changing .................. but I'll get the weekend out of them.


It would seem you are full of maybe's and short on answers. Why don't you concentrate your mind on the GMB article and address the fact that Brighton testing standards are less frequent than at least one of the authorities accused of having lower standards than Brighton?

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There are many factors not being considered within this debate ................ and the people making the specific points are not considering them.


I think the nameless GMB rep who wrote this article is the main culprit of not considering the relevant factors.

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I must say .................... you've lost the plot JD.

Did you actually read through the replies you made in the last post.

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What they should all do is do the brighton brief and come and work we us.

the streets are laiden with gold in Brighton or so we are told. :lol:

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the streets are laiden with gold in Brighton or so we are told. :lol:

Everytime I drop there it's laden with rubbish.

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i looked on the page after clicking on:

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/weeklynews.html


regarding up to date news and its about january 2007
do i need to do somthing on my computer so i see the last 7 months taxi news ?


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Zaffer Iqbal metro cars wrote:
i looked on the page after clicking on:

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/weeklynews.html


regarding up to date news and its about january 2007
do i need to do somthing on my computer so i see the last 7 months taxi news ?


In three seperate posts you have made a reference to the front page News section, are you complaining that we haven't offered the latest news, or just highlighting the fact that the page needs updating?

All the latest Taxi News can be read in the "News Forum" and it comes faster than any other Taxi or private hire medium anywhere in the world. In fact 99% of all news reports that appear in monthly magazines have been read on TDO long before they appear anywhere else.

The last six months has been a very busy period for TDO and transfering news items from the news forum to the front page has suffered in the short term. The News pages will be updated on a regular basis very shortly so don't think the situation is not in hand.

In the coming weeks I'm hoping to finalise the TDO online magazine which was also put ont the back burner because of our heavy workload.

You have to realise, that everyone involved with TDO gives their time, commitment and assistance freely and most people realise that. If you wan't to read the latest News all you have to do is click on "News Forum" and if you have any News to offer, then by all means do as others do and just post it.

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Zaffer Iqbal metro cars wrote:
do i need to do somthing on my computer so i see the last 7 months taxi news ?

You could try stuffing it up your ar** if you want. :shock:

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