Limited Hire, No Private Hire Licence required???

skippy41 · **Posted:** Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:36 am

blimey gus dont give all our secrets out some jumped up councilor will see this as a golden opportunity and start charging us :lol:

gusmac · **Posted:** Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:55 pm

skippy41 wrote:

:shock: blimey gus dont give all our secrets out some jumped up councilor will see this as a golden opportunity and start charging us :lol:

They don't need encouragement for that :lol:

They need the Scottish Exec to finish the long awaited review of the CGSA. :lol:

Hope their not holding their breath :oops:

Sussex · **Posted:** Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:54 pm

grandad wrote:

So this is only in Scotland! What happens if the guy in Scotland has this "emergency" and the job brings him into England?

Then he is legal.

Which does make a mockery of things. [-(

But this type of scam I believe led to the ending of the sec 75 contract exemption down here.

IMO when London got rid of their own little contract exemption scam in the 1998 Act it had to lead to the scam being ending throughout England and Wales, as the scamters could just do what they did in London just outside of it.

Maybe those MSPs in that big expensive palace up there will now help out the good guys by stopping the abuse from the bad guys.

But to answer your question IMO anyone with a Scottish PO Box could still get around English and Welsh laws.

Fae Fife · **Posted:** Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:09 pm

Sussex wrote:

(c) apply to a vehicle while it is being used for carrying passengers under a contract for its exclusive hire for a period of not less than 24 hours.

It would appear you can do what you like in what you like as long as a proper written contract exists between you and your customer.

How do you know the contract has to be written?

Fae Fife · **Posted:** Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:16 pm

bloodnock wrote:

I guess its governed by the point of booking..and as im in scotland it'd come under scottish rules...at last something from the scottish executive that doesn't grate on my nerves...

So you presumably didn't see the Executive's consultation on base station licensing a couple of years ago?

It's coming, but since they've been discussing it for years I wouldn't hold your breath in the meantime.

I daresay they'll close the 24-hour contract hire exemption as well sooner or later, to bring it in line with down south.

Fae Fife · **Posted:** Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:18 pm

Just in case any SNP supporters are looking in I should have said that it's now the Scottish Government, not a humble Executive. [-(

Sussex · **Posted:** Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:22 pm

Fae Fife wrote:

Sussex wrote:

(c) apply to a vehicle while it is being used for carrying passengers under a contract for its exclusive hire for a period of not less than 24 hours.

It would appear you can do what you like in what you like as long as a proper written contract exists between you and your customer.

How do you know the contract has to be written?

Just a guess that your mob might read the law the same way as our mob. :wink:

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/vie ... php?t=3630

Fae Fife · **Posted:** Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:24 pm

bloodnock wrote:

And where could i Find such an Insurance for Occasional work only?? and How do these Luxury Limo guys manage to run vehicles that are unplated by any form of local authority, i assume that there is an Insurance catagory to suit them. as far as my Insurance brokers are concerned I seem to need every concievable authority proof before i get to insure any of my vehicles just short of getting a signature from the almighty himself tp say that I am who I say I am...

I don't know the precise answer to your questions, but there have been plenty of private cars used for occassional work in St Andrews over the years (eg for golf tournaments).

Tell your brokers that you would be using the car under the contract hire exemption under section 22(c) of the Civic Government (Scotland) Act 1982.

Fae Fife · **Posted:** Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:32 pm

Sussex wrote:

Fae Fife wrote:

Sussex wrote:

(c) apply to a vehicle while it is being used for carrying passengers under a contract for its exclusive hire for a period of not less than 24 hours.

It would appear you can do what you like in what you like as long as a proper written contract exists between you and your customer.

How do you know the contract has to be written?

Just a guess that your mob might read the law the same way as our mob. :wink:

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/vie ... php?t=3630

Had a quick read through Mr Sussex, and I can't see anything that might mean that a written contract is necessary, so could you point me to the relevant bit?

Anyway, the reason I ask is that there seems to be all kinds of rubbish floating around up here about what and what isn't involved in this exemption, eg if you were a chauffer's cap then some seem to think that means you're automaticially exempt. :lol:

Sussex · **Posted:** Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:40 pm

Fae Fife wrote:

Had a quick read through Mr Sussex, and I can't see anything that might mean that a written contract is necessary, so could you point me to the relevant bit?

Think I put the wrong one up.

http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3631

Sussex · **Posted:** Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:43 pm

And this one sort of confirms it. :wink:

http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3626

grandad · **Joined:** Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:27 pm **Posts:** 20130

Fae Fife wrote:

Sussex wrote:

Fae Fife wrote:

Sussex wrote:

(c) apply to a vehicle while it is being used for carrying passengers under a contract for its exclusive hire for a period of not less than 24 hours.

It would appear you can do what you like in what you like as long as a proper written contract exists between you and your customer.

How do you know the contract has to be written?

Just a guess that your mob might read the law the same way as our mob. :wink:

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/vie ... php?t=3630

Had a quick read through Mr Sussex, and I can't see anything that might mean that a written contract is necessary, so could you point me to the relevant bit?

Anyway, the reason I ask is that there seems to be all kinds of rubbish floating around up here about what and what isn't involved in this exemption, eg if you were a chauffer's cap then some seem to think that means you're automaticially exempt. :lol:

I sell chauffeur hats if you are interested.

gusmac · **Posted:** Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:09 pm

what colour?

MR T · **Joined:** Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:26 pm **Posts:** 8529

I bet you have not got one that would fit Sussex

grandad · **Joined:** Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:27 pm **Posts:** 20130

gusmac wrote:

what colour?

Black. All sizes from 6 3/4" up to 8" at probably the best price in the country. £34.95 including VAT.

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