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I have no problem with the way TDO opertate ............... however I do have a problem with you contacting councils offering your opinion on their policies, whilst stating that you are from TDO using an assumed name.


You have a problem with me congratulating a council on its policies? lol I suppose you would prefer me to ask your permission before I have a chit? What I do and who I talk to has nothing whatsoever to do with you or anyone else.

When I start telling you how to conduct your business, then you can start telling me how I conduct mine.

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But we must air our views with honesty.
Am I wrong ???? Correct me please !


I agree with much of what you've said, but my essential point is that GA is trying to make out that that TDO is purporting to be some kind of representative organisation, whereas it's nothing of the sort and has never claimed to be. Thus GA either doesn't understand what the term means or is just mischief making.

Do you think TDO is presenting itself as a representative organisatio? If so, what evidence do you have to support this.

GA seems to answer this question by making ridiculous statements like JD is using the site to peddle his opinions, which has nothing to do with the site being accused of being a representative organisation.

It seems to me that we're all making our opinions known on here, and indeed that's the purpose of the site, but if GA sees something he doesn't like then he uses words like "peddle" and makes the whole things seem like some kind of crime. :roll:

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Unfortunately ... YOU..and Sussex have become tarred with the same brush as JD.. by Association... it would seem? that you have allowed JD to use this site for his own purposes...... I personally think you have been naive...... and that is not an insult... :wink:

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So if JD's used it for his own purposes then it can't be a representative organisation then :lol:

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There are many on here that use TDO to promote their own agendas or those of their organisations.
Including the ones who seem to have a problem with JD.

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When you contact my LO, and identify me, then it becomes my business.


Why beat about the bush, perhaps you can advise us all of what you are talking about?

That might make things a little clearer?

JD


You use a username on here .................. so do I.

When discussing things you have used my real name, as you do with others .............. but we don't know who you are.

You check with councils to be sure that people are who they say they are ................. yet you protect your own identity with vigour.

You also contact local authorities and inform them that a driver from their area is posting on TDO ............... and you tell them the identity of that person.

You do this at every opportunity ................. maybe you could inform us as to why knowing this information could benefit this site .............. because I'm sure most of us can see benefits to you.

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As long as evidence exists that people are phoning claiming to be from TDO its obvious ONLY that those doing the phoning intend to mislead.


John Davies
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Is that what you mean?

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But if you were collating news you'd be asking questions and not offering opinion or congratualtions. You'd leave your opinion to the story you wrote on here.

Your name isn't John Davies anyway ................ at least it isn't if you drive a taxi in the area you claim you do.

What about you lists ............... or the fact that you send your inaccurate information to councils which have a policy which contradicts your beliefs in an attempt to get them to change that policy.

The fact that your are contacting councils on benhalf of TDO suggests that you have the authority to speak on behalf of TDO and of course its membership of subscribers.

Is it the case that Tony Mite found out about your "activities" and didn't want his publication to be abused in the way you seem to be willing to abuse TDO.

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JD wrote:
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I have no problem with the way TDO opertate ............... however I do have a problem with you contacting councils offering your opinion on their policies, whilst stating that you are from TDO using an assumed name.


You have a problem with me congratulating a council on its policies? lol I suppose you would prefer me to ask your permission before I have a chit? What I do and who I talk to has nothing whatsoever to do with you or anyone else.

When I start telling you how to conduct your business, then you can start telling me how I conduct mine.

JD


I would prefer you to tell everyone who you are ...............

I have a problem with you phoning councils and saying " Hello there my name is John Davies I'm from the website taxi driver online and I'd like to talk to you about some of the discussions taking place on our boards as they concern drivers from your area" without first obtaining the permission of the people involved within the discussion, particularly when you have the real name of the people posting under usernames.

You constantly tell other people and organisations how to run their businesses .................... what is refreshing though is your outburst that no-one should have the audacity to suggest how you should conduct yourself. :roll:

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Taxis wrote:
But we must air our views with honesty.
Am I wrong ???? Correct me please !


I agree with much of what you've said, but my essential point is that GA is trying to make out that that TDO is purporting to be some kind of representative organisation, whereas it's nothing of the sort and has never claimed to be. Thus GA either doesn't understand what the term means or is just mischief making.


Michief making ................. who me ........................heavens.

Lets just get this clear ........................ JD contacts local authorities claiming to be from TDO ................. is he not therefore considered or percieved to be a representative?

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Do you think TDO is presenting itself as a representative organisation? If so, what evidence do you have to support this.


I said that JD pretends to be a representative of TDO ................. at no time have I claimed that TDO was a representative body.

Perhaps you'd be so king as to point out where I made that statement .................. I suggest that your trying to change the situation to protect JD's activities.

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GA seems to answer this question by making ridiculous statements like JD is using the site to peddle his opinions, which has nothing to do with the site being accused of being a representative organisation.


But no-one has accused the site of being a representative organisation ..................... and JD has openly sent his inaccurate lists to all and sundry if you don'y see that as peddling his opinions then perhaps you could offer some alternative word which I would gladly use.

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It seems to me that we're all making our opinions known on here, and indeed that's the purpose of the site, but if GA sees something he doesn't like then he uses words like "peddle" and makes the whole things seem like some kind of crime. :roll:


and when you see a thread that you don't like ............. written by someone you consider beneath contempt ............... you use words like "ridiculous" and then claim that people have said things that they haven't in an attempt to make them appear foolish.

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GA wrote:
I'd like to talk to you about some of the discussions taking place on our boards as they concern drivers from your area"


Now when and where did I say that? Most interesting.

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GA wrote:
without first obtaining the permission of the people involved within the discussion


And to which people do you refer?

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particularly when you have the real name of the people posting under usernames.


Such as?

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You constantly tell other people and organisations how to run their businesses


People can run their organisation any way they want as long as they don't say they represent me or anyone else that doesn't belong to their minority organisations. And as long as they keep to their own business and don't try and implement conditions or legislation that works against me and the rest of the Taxi trade then, they can do what they like as far as I'm concerned.

When are you going to supply us with a commentary of this supposed conversation I had with an LO, about you?

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Is it the case that Tony Mite found out about your "activities" and didn't want his publication to be abused in the way you seem to be willing to abuse TDO.

I can't believe anyone could be so gullible as to believe a word of that.

Even you. :shock:

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What about you lists ............... or the fact that you send your inaccurate information to councils which have a policy which contradicts your beliefs in an attempt to get them to change that policy.

The fact that your are contacting councils on benhalf of TDO suggests that you have the authority to speak on behalf of TDO and of course its membership of subscribers.


The quota list was more or less finalised 12 months ago with all the councils bar one or two having made their decision on what they intend to do? The list hasn't been sent to anyone for a long time but it has certainly been downloaded by many people since then but the list is now a part of current history whether you or anyone else likes it or not.

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Is it the case that Tony Mite found out about your "activities" and didn't want his publication to be abused in the way you seem to be willing to abuse TDO.


lol. Most interesting indeed. I have all the private messages and emails from Mr Mite asking Myself and TDO to help save his ailing magazine. I also have all his persistent private messages of him wanting to buy TDO. I also have the private messages where I told him where to stick his magazine.

We know Mr Mite is extremely economical with the truth so I suppose right now you look pretty foolish to everyone on here coming out with an accusation like that?

Can we have a commentary please of the accusation leveled at me in respect of me discussing you with an LO?

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Is it the case that Tony Mite found out about your "activities" and didn't want his publication to be abused in the way you seem to be willing to abuse TDO.

I can't believe anyone could be so gullible as to believe a word of that.

Even you. :shock:


Its a question Sussex ..................... a way of gethering information?

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Can we have a commentary please of the accusation leveled at me in respect of me discussing you with an LO?

JD


Have you spoken to the LO at Gateshead Council?

Do you know my real name?

Did you make him aware of your real name?

Did you tell him that you were from TDO?

Others have informed me of other information given to you that was then passed onto their LO ...................... do you deny this also?

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