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you're sitting behind a screen. trying to interpret what you read. and what you read is somebody elses interpretation of the truth... it leads to confusion.... so you're confused... it's much better to have first-hand experience in the real world... you keep confusing Liverpool and its actions with the meeting of minds..... but if it make's you happy so be it. ps.. it used to be so very peaceful sitting in the evening enjoying a drink on the verandah alongside the Thames..... they have changed it now for a cafe..... Labour bloody Government...

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

I have no need to interpret what you write because the language you use is simple enough, lol just jesting. I am responding to your comments which need no interpretation, you said the Liverpool contingent have learnt by their mistakes, I and many others will beg to differ.

By their own actions in trying to amend legislation by way of the back door this motley crew of prehistoric taxi representatives are dammed by their own hand. We don't need platitudes from the likes of yourself all we seek is reality. I think reality is a world away from the crowd who went down to London to try and convince the Dft to alter perfectly good legislation.

I don't think it is any coincidence that the vested interests are now trying to achieve the same result through this meeting of minds exercise.

Regards

JD

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There you go again... I did not say Liverpool had learned from their lessons... your confusion is apparent

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Well it is quite apparent that I'm talking about Liverpool if your talking about something entirely different then we are talking at cross purposes. Can you please direct your comments to my comments in respect of the Liverpool contingent not learning from their mistakes.

As far as I'm aware they are the only body that has recently gone down to London and returned with their tail between their legs.

Regards

JD

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Feedback from our representatives to today's meeting, with the Minister of State Rosie Winterton, was very positive and it was agreed that this was just the start of an on-going dialogue.

GMB reps met with the Minister, her permanent secretary, her PPS, two PA's, a bus regs boffin, and Mr Farmer of the Bus and Taxis department.

GMB reps from Brighton and Manchester expressed their concern to the Minister about unlicensed drivers abusing the PSV licensing system, by driving vehicles with less than 9 seats using an ordinary DVLA license.

Examples were given where unlicensed drivers, having been refused PH licenses from their local councils, gained employment by PSV operators and subsequently abused passengers. And put children at risk.

The Minister was taken aback, genuinely, and asked some very stretching questions of her officials, as to why this mess is happening on her shout. Officials blamed the EU but said they would try and find a solution to end this dangerous scam (GMB words, not DfT).

In our representative's views the Minister will pursue this, and if there is anything that can be done, then it will be.

On the issue of some Chauffeurs firms requiring their drivers to work crazy hours 90/100+ the Minister has asked her officials to talk with the Health and Safety Executive to see what can be done. The Minister and the GMB reps agreed that drivers need to work the hours they need to earn a living, but working 100 hours a week is not the way forward.

A suggestion was made by the GMB, and the Minister asked her officials to look into it, that a duty be placed on an operator/boss, that getting drivers to work those hours would effect their 'fit and proper' status.

All in all a good first meeting between the Minister and the new National GMB PDB. However time ran out and our reps forgot to ask the new Cab Act question. But as I will be at the next meeting I can guarantee everyone I will not forget to ask.

Regards
BB

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Mick Hildreth (07814 032002)
GMB PDB P39 Southern Region Branch Secretary
mick.hildreth@gmbtaxis.org.uk
www.gmbpdb.org.uk

I also think some sort of professional qualification, in the same way as bus operators need, should be part of PH operator's fit and proper standing.

We can't have a pop at the bus folks if our operators are seen to be of a lower standard.

But I like the idea that if a driver is offered a long journey when he has been working 12/13/14 hours anyway, then the operator should share the blame with the driver when, not if, it goes tits up.

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IDFIMH

OK I accept your apology.... But you really must pay attention in future..lol

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Is that a white flag I see you waving in the distance, or is it a white stick? lol

I bet with your stoic wit you would have got more out of the minister than the GMB delegation did today.

Regards

JD

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I think we both would have ... there is only one way to win... all associations and unions must be singing the same song, at the same time, in the same place.

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Reminds me of that morcom and wise song at the moment
bump bo yat tata

Yep... that just about sums it up...

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

lol maybe so, who knows? But your mate Tall Sean was there batting for Manchester Airport and trying to convince the Minister that O licenses are a blight on mankind. I happen to think there are far more important things that need remedying in the Taxi trade than PSV O licenses.

I'm getting rather pizzed off with organisations chasing their tale over inconsequential unachievable short term aims.

In order to change this particular item of legislation relating to PSV's operating as private hire your going to have to bring in an RRO. The likelihood of that happening is zero.

If your going to talk to the Minister make sure you can achieve what you set out to acomplish, otherwise what's the point in entering meaningful discussions? "None".

Its just a waste of everyones time.

Regards

JD

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Ring around the rosy is a game everyone plays.... who will win nobody knows... just as long as they seem to be doing something.... never take on a battle you cannot win...
and I agree with you it's all so frustrating...... for every action taken there is a counter action planned by someone else for their own reasons...
ps. I got pizzed off a long time ago.

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

TBH I never get pi***d off with issues, and if I think something needs doing then I will bang on about it forever.

If it doesn't happen, then so be it, but those 'Walls of Jericho' did come a tumbling down in the end.

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IDFIMH

Is the only reason you don't want to see the London Private Hire Act replacing the PH legislation nationwide because it doesn't insist on a single tier of licensing.

And to date you still haven't pointed out where you see the use of Hackney Carriages being any different than it was in 1847 if the subsequent acts regarding mainly PH were abolished.

Is it just because it doesn't suit your opinion or future personal plans.

B. Lucky

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