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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:43 pm 
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I would agree with you but Survey's of demand are not good enough for some of whom who want to De-limit under the Human rights act section 14 , based on the premise they are being denied unfettered access to the tools of their trade. I would be quite happy to go along as it is but in the event of the numpties playing the LAW card winning, surely the New York way can be considered as a last resort


Article 14: Discrimination

The enjoyment of the rights and freedoms set forth in this convention shall be secured without discrimination on any ground such as sex, race, colour, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, association with a national minority, property, birth or other status.


This section?

I seriously believe the UK government would have been better giving us bill of rights.

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I'm quoting the section SKULL keeps shouting about although i can't see within your post anything concerning Unfettered access to the tools of their trade being denied? Maybe Skull or Taylor would like to point out to us the correct section or explain where within this are they being denied unfettered access? C'MON big boy's (skull&taylor) we want to debate your alledged breach of rights!!! As far as i'm concerned our council acts fairly and without discrimination, survey's of demand are fair.

I agree with the bill of rights, some clarity for a trade at risk of security breaches as posted earlier would help protect not only the trade but also the public. Security though can overcome Human rights, in some cases

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ok lets say we follow your plan a little private reggie

the council owns your plate dougie you say you paid x for it and you propose that the council charge y to new apps.
they would then have to charge you the difference between x and y

happy so far :?:

then they would have to ask you to prove your purchase

happy so far :?:

the logistics of this are a minefield Dougie,never mind illegal.

it will never happen,and remember i don't care if it did, I'm quids in either way

or they could just say that everyone has to pay £40k on renewal of your license

happy so far :?:

would you be happy if a letter from the council landed on your doorstep tomorrow telling you that your council tax for next year will be £50k

happy with that.

and you say I'm right wing

what you propose is bordering on fascism


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ALI T wrote:
ok lets say we follow your plan a little private reggie

the council owns your plate dougie you say you paid x for it and you propose that the council charge y to new apps.
they would then have to charge you the difference between x and y

happy so far :?:

then they would have to ask you to prove your purchase

happy so far :?:

the logistics of this are a minefield Dougie,never mind illegal.

it will never happen,and remember i don't care if it did, I'm quids in either way

or they could just say that everyone has to pay £40k on renewal of your license

happy so far :?:

would you be happy if a letter from the council landed on your doorstep tomorrow telling you that your council tax for next year will be £50k

happy with that.

and you say I'm right wing

what you propose is bordering on fascism
HyPATHETICAL response!!! I'm sure we could negotiate a better deal than that! Also my financial records are spot on are yours?

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its clear you haven't thought this through Dougie.
apart from its all about Dougie Dougie Dougie.

you've been shot to bits on here and on fasties its a nonsense of an idea
and you know it at least i hope you do.

and no i don't keep financial records.

those are for people that actually have a business.

if I'm ever asked for them then ill make some up £12k a year.gross
and yes i smoke in my cab go tell the cab inspector see where that gets you.
you drive a taxi dougie its unskilled labour we are the bottom of the barrel in case you didn't know


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you drive a taxi dougie its unskilled labour


F*ck off.....in the nicest possible terms obviously, I know every street, every rat run of my City and have done this job for 20 odd years.

I consider myself a highly skilled cab driver.......and so should you.

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oh and what if they remove incorporation :?: :?:
and then tell you they you have to pay £40k on your next renewal or your plate gets auctioned off to the highest bidder :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

have you given up on the pilot scenario Dougie has it been struck from Dougie's book of marvelous ideas


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ALI T wrote:
its clear you haven't thought this through Dougie.
apart from its all about Dougie Dougie Dougie.

you've been shot to bits on here and on fasties its a nonsense of an idea
and you know it at least i hope you do.

and no i don't keep financial records.

those are for people that actually have a business.

if I'm ever asked for them then ill make some up £12k a year.gross
and yes i smoke in my cab go tell the cab inspector see where that gets you.
you drive a taxi dougie its unskilled labour we are the bottom of the barrel in case you didn't know


The only 3 people too try and shoot me to bits is the three T(it)s and i emphasise the TRY. On fasties Taylor and Skull avoided the idea but others thought the idea has merit, infact i've had many cabbies coming up saying to me the council should have done this years ago before plate value's rocketed.

Ali your obviously a worried man with a worried mind to confess on a forum that you don't keep financial record's AND smoke in your cab, you know! you never know who is watching, remind yourself of your remit! Screwing the system to make money, lots of guy's with grudges know you are a carpetbagger!!! But Trust me i'm not a grass, what you do or the way you live your life i have no concern, good luck with it, but i live it clean i've come to far to lose it.

I agree with CC the Trade is full of many Skills of which is what i love about it.

A point to note as i play games with you!!! Who said the council will sell plates for £40k, not me!!! I'm staying with the right to use, application fee for the right to use £40k is another form of restriction within a resricted market place, De-regulation fecked the banks ect it doesn't work over regulation, in Edinburgh we need restriction

I was at the AGM Snp tonight, Security will be re-defined to cover trades such as the Taxi trade to halt the infiltration of the Taxi trade by criminals ect, just a point to note :D

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I was at the AGM Snp tonight, Security will be re-defined to cover trades such as the Taxi trade to halt the infiltration of the Taxi trade by criminals ect, just a point to note :D


Strange you should mention that......the NTA conference this year will cover it.

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ALI T wrote:
oh and what if they remove incorporation :?: :?:
and then tell you they you have to pay £40k on your next renewal or your plate gets auctioned off to the highest bidder :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

have you given up on the pilot scenario Dougie has it been struck from Dougie's book of marvelous ideas

Incorporation stay's, plates not sold and stay as they are but a transfer fee at the current new app level brought in for existing plate holders, Ali the only part that changes is the new application fee up to £40k?

The point on the Pilot? Two words to see if you get it? Difference and investment :?:

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captain cab wrote:
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I was at the AGM Snp tonight, Security will be re-defined to cover trades such as the Taxi trade to halt the infiltration of the Taxi trade by criminals ect, just a point to note :D


Strange you should mention that......the NTA conference this year will cover it.

CC

Thanks for that CC it proves to some i don't talk pash :D I heard it straight from our Justice ministers mouth :wink:

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as i said dougie its me me me with you
and feck everyone else.
lets put it this way dougie ive got twice as many plates as you and id welcome dereg if it came.
you on the other hand want to deny your fellow cabbies the right to have what you have,unless of course the crucify themselves with debt.
its morally bankrupt
and if you go buy your logic the guy you bought the plate off is also a carpetbagger,he got it for the price of an application fee.


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and Dougie why would i confess to that if i was worried

the authorities and i have had many a run in Dougie.

they have lost at every meet they now stay well clear,as it should be.

and yes that includes the revenue.


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lets just settle this once and for all Dougie

tell me how you intend to put your ideas into practice

and why do you keep prattling on about security etc

explain what you are talking about and we may all understand you,its no wonder we all think your off your hied when you skewer all over the place with security, human rights and legislation in the usa.
and lets not forget the snp.


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come to think of it buy buying a plate didn't you Que jump.


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Private Reggie wrote:
captain cab wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:

I was at the AGM Snp tonight, Security will be re-defined to cover trades such as the Taxi trade to halt the infiltration of the Taxi trade by criminals ect, just a point to note :D


Strange you should mention that......the NTA conference this year will cover it.

CC

Thanks for that CC it proves to some i don't talk pash :D I heard it straight from our Justice ministers mouth :wink:

your obviously not familiar with cc's Modus operandi dougie.
i doubt very much that he is agreeing with you,but you never know,and you certainly wont :lol:

try looking back one page dougie
and then go look at what was said on fasties, and the look back on this thread one page :wink:
and repeat! and breaaath. 3...2...1 your back in the room :lol:


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