Taxi Driver Online

Personally I don't think there is a difference, but, apparently there is when it comes to licensing. It's run similar to the doomed Fraser Eagle as far as I can make out

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Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!

But are you making provisions for the acceptance of bookings?

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IDFIMH

is it any different to skyscanner and the actual airlines it quotes off?

skyscanner would need to be ABTA bonded if cabquoter needed an ops licence

course they dont need an ops licence

But many PH set ups don't own the cars or employ the drivers. They take bookings and pass them on to drivers. But the business taking the bookings and passing them on must have an operator's licence.





Well for a start it should be recalled that there's no operator's licence needed to pass work to taxis/Hackney carriages, so that's an irrelevance.

However, if it's a PH car that's getting the work then there must be an operator's licence in play somewhere, and all three licences - operator, vehicle proprietor and driver - must be from the same LA.

Section 80 of the legislation says:

"operate" means in the course of business to make provision for the invitation or acceptance of bookings for a private hire vehicle;

And to pass such work to PH vehicles you must have an operator's licence.

Perhaps the answer to the national booking office question is that if you pass on work to a licenced operator then you don't need a licence because you're not operating PH vehicles - the person with the operator's licence is doing that.

Thus perhaps the answer is that you can pass on work without a licence provided it's to someone who actually has a PH operator's licence.

You can't pass on work to a PH car and driver who doesn't have an operator's licence.

There must be an licenced operator involved somewhere in the chain.

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Caledonian Cabbie

I agree.
I think we would all agree if a customer went from A to B using this service somewhere along the way the customer should be in a licensed vehicle taxi or private hire.
I would stop trying to work the problem out from the customers first point of contact and try to look at it from the PH drivers viewpoint in reverse to make it easier to dissect. [The taxi part will legally look after itself[.

The PH driver accepts a job off the radio, the PH company accepted the job off a PDA or Mobile, the taxirouter accepted the job off the customer.
Only one operators license is required, the one that gives out the work to the Drivers/Vehicles that they control. Again if you have no vehicles that you control/own/run/operate you do not require an ops license
The PH Licensed car should be used under an operators License. My point is as long as this is in place why do you need the third party referral company to have to have one too.
The Captain posted this and it clearly states 56 Operators of private hire vehicles..

(1)For the purposes of this Part of this Act every contract for the hire of a private hire vehicle licensed under this Part of this Act shall be deemed to be made with the operator who accepted the booking for that vehicle whether or not he himself provided the vehicle..

But you didn't specifically point out the need for an operator's licence at some point in the food chain, instead you said:



What would be illegal about that?

You also said:



He would be if he was passing work directly to drivers who didn't have an operator's licence.

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Caledonian Cabbie

Point 1: I did on the bottom of my first post on page1

Point 2: It would be illegal if he had an ops license in Birmingham then gave a job to a Wreham PH with no ops license.

Point 3: But he wont be if he had any sense, I refer you again to my first post, page1

Perhaps that was what you meant, but you didn't quite say it. What you said was:



The word 'company is a specific legal framework for conducting a business and doesn't really mean anything as far as the present discussion is concerned.

You could have a company owning PH vehicles which isn't an operator, while you could have a non-company (a sole trader or partnership) acting as a PH operator which may or may not also own dozens of PH vehicles.

Thus if it's a question about licensing then the word company is a bit misleading - presumably what you really meant was 'operator'?




Indeed, and that's another aspect of the legality which was discussed earlier, but your more general point was incorrect.



Well he won't if given proper advice. But then again he might

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Caledonian Cabbie

But are they, or are they not, making provisions for the acceptance of bookings?

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IDFIMH

The accepting of the booking would not be complete until the PH Company/taxi driver accepted the job/contract. The whole thing would then be complete.
I suspect it could be possible to ask taxi router to book a taxi and there may be a scenario were there would be no vehicle to complete the contract if all the vehicles on the system were either busy or on holiday.

I think it's a toughy, but, to make provision is to supply and they don't supply anything. They enable a supplier to provide

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Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!

I don't think you have to supply anything to "make provisions"

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http://wingsoverscotland.com/ http://www.newsnetscotland.com/

How's that work? How do you make provision for something you don't have?

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Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!

no

they give a estimate of cost and a list of suppliers nearest the punter (or send the details to all members), THEY (the website) dont take bookings

does this one need an ops licence?

http://www.findataxi.info/