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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 8:59 pm 
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I dont know about you guys

But the police around our area are crap when you call them when someone does a runner or refuses to pay allway told it a civil matter and the police can do nothing about it :x would it be the same law if some did this in a high street store :?:


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 10:13 pm 
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Yes, its theft act. Exactly the same law.

Its just that your Police are crap.

Like ours.

Like most.

It simply is not a Civil Matter.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 6:46 am 
2old4this wrote:
I dont know about you guys

But the police around our area are crap when you call them when someone does a runner or refuses to pay allway told it a civil matter and the police can do nothing about it :x would it be the same law if some did this in a high street store :?:



Well let me be the bearer of good news its criminal act to go to a restraunt and order food without the resources to pay also to get into a taxi without resources to pay.

if they get the [edited by admin] make them wash the taxi!


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 1:53 pm 
2old4this wrote:
I dont know about you guys

But the police around our area are crap when you call them when someone does a runner or refuses to pay allway told it a civil matter and the police can do nothing about it :x would it be the same law if some did this in a high street store :?:


mate of mine had a runner the other day, stupid fare did a runner in to his own house!!

mate managed to get it to court got the £25 fare plus £25 waiting time and the fare got done for shoplifting ??!! 50 hours community service.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 11:02 am 
Do they turn a blind eye when it's pointed through a speed camera???????


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 9:08 am 
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Andy7 wrote:
Yes, its theft act. Exactly the same law.

Its just that your Police are crap.

Like ours.

Like most.

It simply is not a Civil Matter.


I think part of the problem might be that if someone takes something from a shop then the criminal intent is obvious, esp if it's caught on CCTV etc.

On the other hand with a runner there's little in the way of proof and they can always claim that they just forgot that they didn't have money, in which case it is a civil matter, because there's no criminal intent if you just forgot that you'd run out of money, or at least claimed that this was the case.

But generally the police are crap.

Dusty :?


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 1:23 am 
As a taxi driver i know this is the case, would'nt the powers of be be better sorting this out than worring about fire engines or tanks,
maybe they never got a fire engine as a wee boy,OR IS THIS AN EASY SUBJECT TO PICK ON,THAT THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.

ISNT IT TIME WHEN WE CALLED THE POLIE WE GOT SOME HELP...


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 3:41 am 
Dusty Bin wrote:
Andy7 wrote:
Yes, its theft act. Exactly the same law.

Its just that your Police are crap.

Like ours.

Like most.

It simply is not a Civil Matter.


I think part of the problem might be that if someone takes something from a shop then the criminal intent is obvious, esp if it's caught on CCTV etc.

On the other hand with a runner there's little in the way of proof and they can always claim that they just forgot that they didn't have money, in which case it is a civil matter, because there's no criminal intent if you just forgot that you'd run out of money, or at least claimed that this was the case.

But generally the police are crap.

Dusty :?



gawd we are scraping the bottom of the bin, running is an admitance that there was no intention to pay!

of course its illegal to get into a taxi without resources to pay.
if they have no money they should book a private hire car


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 6:00 am 
Or telephone a "Taxi office" who takes bookings over the phone and sends a H/C. Same difference eh, Geoffrey? :oops:


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 12:38 pm 
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Or telephone a "Taxi office" who takes bookings over the phone and sends a H/C. Same difference eh, Geoffrey? :oops:



no it isnt actually.
its illegle to get into a taxi without the recourses to pay however it was booked, though its not ilegal to get into a private hire car I am told.

though if you do a runner thats showing no intention of paying anyway!
but private hire will have a pick up address and delivery address so they will surely be able to get thier money!

whereas a taxi may not


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 6:44 pm 
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Anonymous wrote:
no it isnt actually.
its illegle to get into a taxi without the recourses to pay however it was booked, though its not ilegal to get into a private hire car I am told.


Now that's strange cos someone else mentioned that to me about a month ago. :? :?

Thankfully, the Theft Act doesn't discriminate in the same way as other Acts. :roll: :roll: :roll:

If you get into a HC or PH, find out at the end of the journey that you are without funds, and promise to pay in a reasonable time, that's a civil matter.

However if you get out and run, then that's theft, no-matter what vehicle you are running from. :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 7:09 am 
Sussex Man wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
no it isnt actually.
its illegle to get into a taxi without the recourses to pay however it was booked, though its not ilegal to get into a private hire car I am told.


Now that's strange cos someone else mentioned that to me about a month ago. :? :?

Thankfully, the Theft Act doesn't discriminate in the same way as other Acts. :roll: :roll: :roll:

If you get into a HC or PH, find out at the end of the journey that you are without funds, and promise to pay in a reasonable time, that's a civil matter.

However if you get out and run, then that's theft, no-matter what vehicle you are running from. :wink:



yes think I can go with that interpretation.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 10:38 am 
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yes think I can go with that interpretation.


Well I will sleep well tonight, now I know that. :roll: :roll: :roll:

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 10:34 pm 
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Is it illegal to kick the crap out of them if you catch them heh heh heh!!!

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 10:36 pm 
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Is it illegal to kick the crap out of them if you catch them heh heh heh!!!


only if its self defence


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