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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:42 pm 
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I take it TDO wont be sending this thread in as part of the consultation.


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Chris the Fish wrote:
I suppose I knew he was.

Toots, my wife and I had a lovely evening.

After we dropped Toots off at her hotel, one nearby caught fire!

http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Ci ... ticle.html

The first picture is taken from just about where Toots was staying.


That explains a lot. I thought I was dreaming when I heard sirens, thought I was back home. Then came the texts from my friends asking if I was alright, which I'm glad to say I never got til I woke up but I still didn't put 2 and 2 together until I drove past the the hotel and saw the fire engines. I'm not the brightest bunny in the morning tho tbh it takes a while for things that disturb me in the middle of the night to come together and make sense :oops:

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What no 69nd :lol:

wtf?

IDFKE

(I Don't F(ing) Know Either)

Just Mr Skippy41 being coarse & rude!!

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I take it TDO wont be sending this thread in as part of the consultation.

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
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I take it TDO wont be sending this thread in as part of the consultation.

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It's not long enough yet anyway, we get 6 pages and we still don't know what size the 6 pages are to be :D

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The main part of the problem is PH numbers cannot be restricted,this is why the problem exists in the first place, and there is virtually no controls on them once licenced
If a PH vehicle had to be brand new and of a decent size to get plated, and had a maximum age of say 8 years imposed, this may reduce the numbers
Another idea is to match taxi and pH numbers so if there is 100 hacks in an area, only 100 PH plates could be issued


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The main part of the problem is PH numbers cannot be restricted,this is why the problem exists in the first place, and there is virtually no controls on them once licenced
If a PH vehicle had to be brand new and of a decent size to get plated, and had a maximum age of say 8 years imposed, this may reduce the numbers
Another idea is to match taxi and pH numbers so if there is 100 hacks in an area, only 100 PH plates could be issued


I suggest you consider the term 'private hire' my friend and then try to grasp what it actually is.

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captain cab wrote:
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The main part of the problem is PH numbers cannot be restricted,this is why the problem exists in the first place, and there is virtually no controls on them once licenced
If a PH vehicle had to be brand new and of a decent size to get plated, and had a maximum age of say 8 years imposed, this may reduce the numbers
Another idea is to match taxi and pH numbers so if there is 100 hacks in an area, only 100 PH plates could be issued


I suggest you consider the term 'private hire' my friend and then try to grasp what it actually is.

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I know what ph can and cannot do CC but whats wrong with some proper legislation like above


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I know what ph can and cannot do CC but whats wrong with some proper legislation like above


I'm not suggesting you dont know, I'm suggesting you need to think about the term 'private hire'.

Private hire now covers more than the old style radio circuits, it covers minibuses, limousines and a plethora of people who dont actually want to be PH.

What use is an age limit to someone who runs maybe limousines doing 10,000 miles per year on executive hires, or a colour policy, or a restriction on numbers?

Private Hire is a choice the customer makes when they make a phone call, on a cab rank they have no choice (usually anyway).

What you seem to want is to give LA's more power, its a power they often abuse and frequently dont know how to use.

There is thread after thread on TDO showing LA incompetance, and you want them to be able to have the power to set an age limit?

Maybe thats a good idea, maybe we should adopt my own LA's.......3 on 5 off?

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In the end would it not be better to re write the rule books for both hack and ph in a form that we can all understand, especially councils
most rules should have gone out with the ark


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In the end would it not be better to re write the rule books for both hack and ph in a form that we can all understand, especially councils
most rules should have gone out with the ark


IMO no.

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most rules should have gone out with the ark


I don't think they had the rules for them to go out with the ark :wink:

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Going for the "all new, encompass everything" Act is very dangerous.

If I was allowed to write the Act it would of course be brilliant.

For me!

But if a PH driver or operator was to write the Act it would without doubt, be terrible.

For me!

But nobody will write a perfect Act, and, even if they do, it will be tinkered with at every stage, the finished Act would bear little resemblance to document first tendered.

The changes since 1847, indeed the changes since 1975 (or 1976 for those outside Plymouth) are immense. I will not enumerate them all.

There is an awful lot to be said for some corrective legislation action rather than a full re-hash.

Whilst 300 plus Acts, SI's and the like are a problem, new legislation from the ground up would actually be worse.

The best any of us can do is to put in the paperwork. Six A4 sheets and an index. Not much room. Makes you get your priorities right.

Individuals should do what they can. Local Associations should also put in a document, as should the National and Regional Associations as well as Unions and loose groups.

If you don't speak out, don't moan at the result. Be prepared to fight your corner. You can bet that LACORS, NALEO and IoL are going to be fully ready, if they aren't already. (I do hope that they are only allowed Six pages and an index as well.)

Make sure that when it is done you get somebody, anybody, to proof read your input. It is truly amazing how many times when people write something down, they actually write the exact opposite of what they intend.

The effective way that the Government have kept us separate, is by separating us by Local Authority Area. This, like the OFT a few years ago should bring us together. In particular, Button and his Mob, like to keep us separate. Separated we can be walked over. If we all sing off a Hymn sheet that is at least similar to each other, the great and the good on the Committee may be swayed our way.

It’s up to YOU. When you talk to your colleagues on the Ranks or in the Office or wherever, get them to DO SOMETHING. A single entry with dozens of signatures will be treated as a single entry.

It may be that the single most important thing to you is having to have a “Bristol Blue” coloured Cab. The chap (ess) in the next Cab in the Rank may be more concerned about CCTV in the Cab and who is going to pay for it. You must all do your own, you must have input to your Local, Regional and National bodies. If your MP gets in your Cab, you have a (semi) captive audience, use the opportunity.

Write to your MP anyway, the Committee will come up with proposals, every MP will have to consider the way ahead.

If someone jumps in your vehicle wearing Ermine, brief them as well. The House of Lords could well be the place where rationality is brought back into the picture before any legislation is passed.

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Just hoping you are all scribbling away and will make the deadline!

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Chris the Fish wrote:
Just hoping you are all scribbling away and will make the deadline!

I penned a long one last week for a stakeholder, and expect to sign up to another one before the deadline.

If they amend something that is. :wink:

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