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Any comments, any ideas?

Richard1 wrote:

Any comments, any ideas?

The trade's doomed.

Don't be so cynical the pair of you, it's not doomed it's just going to have to adjust a little bit

Any comments, any ideas?

toots wrote:

Don't be so cynical the pair of you, it's not doomed it's just going to have to adjust a little bit

The thing is that folks out there want the folks in here to tell them that everything will be ok.

Now the folks in here could tell the folks out there that it will be ok, but then the folks out there will switch off and go back into apathy mode.
So if the folks in here give out the 'we're doomed vibes' then the folks out there might get around to doing something about it.

In essence we are only doomed if the whole trade do nothing.

Don't be so cynical the pair of you, it's not doomed it's just going to have to adjust a little bit

http://youtu.be/Yc8wQb0hGjo

toots wrote:

Don't be so cynical the pair of you, it's not doomed it's just going to have to adjust a little bit

'It's just going to have to adjust a little bit', my ar*e!!!

Haven't you heard?

They're dismantling the trade laws, throwing away the bolts that held it together and using pop-rivets to put a new law in place!!

And we all know that the pop-rivets will soon shake lose!!

toots wrote:

Don't be so cynical the pair of you, it's not doomed it's just going to have to adjust a little bit

They're dismantling the trade laws, throwing away the bolts that held it together and using pop-rivets to put a new law in place!!

And we all know that the pop-rivets will soon shake lose!!

toots wrote:

Don't be so cynical the pair of you, it's not doomed it's just going to have to adjust a little bit

Author:	Richard1 [ Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:45 pm ]
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The Law Commission have said that they are looking at e.g.: The proposition that: “The concept of ‘plying for hire’ causes problems”, [is using a mobile to call a cab from a pub doorway ‘hailing’ a vehicle for public hire-surely it is?] Boundaries Quantity & quality control Radio circuits Licensing areas Over regulation The Chair of the Commission, Mr Justice Munby was the ‘lead’ judge in the Stockton v. Fidler case reported in October last, he delivered an analytical judgment covering the history of ‘taxi & PHV regulation’. When will our representatives deal with these core issues of economic importance to drivers & individual cab owners? When will they set out our vision of where we should go (No one appears to represent PHV drivers ?). Minutes available of meetings with the Law Commission show trade priorities to be: the training “industry” & the enforcement lobby? The examining body, Edexcel, is unable to answer subject inquiries. Writing in response to a query they said they did not have the expertise to deal with the matter, wow. Now licensing officers are gaining their own BTEC award via NALEO as an accredited training centre in its own right with the awarding organisation Edexcel. Is it plausible that Edexcel are now capable of regulating the training of regulators? “Enforcement” often lacks understanding even of the “Enforcement Concordat” (& most important demonstrably lacks judgement, see “Berwick” et al)? Suspending licenses for parking offences (carried out on advice from NALEO members) would have seemed vanishingly improbable until it actually happened, & so on. God (?) help us if these people are allowed to issue fixed penalties without proper procedures being in place, (which could happen if the Regulatory Reform Act 2008 is brought into force). The Select Committee and the National Association of Taxi Users [in giving evidence to the Select Committee] ask that public opinion be obtained before change is effected. This is recognition that evidence based decisions are preferred. We are happy to ask for statistical surveys to be carried out? We could ask for a national survey? There is no reason why that should limit itself to fares obtained under the existing meaning of “plying for hire “? Telephonic requests should be included, if not why not? Any comments, any ideas?

Author:	Sussex [ Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:16 pm ]
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Richard1 wrote: Any comments, any ideas? The trade's doomed.

Author:	charles007 [ Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:15 pm ]
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Sussex wrote: Richard1 wrote: Any comments, any ideas? The trade's doomed. I Agree

Author:	toots [ Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:02 pm ]
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Don't be so cynical the pair of you, it's not doomed it's just going to have to adjust a little bit

Author:	Sussex [ Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:13 pm ]
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toots wrote: Don't be so cynical the pair of you, it's not doomed it's just going to have to adjust a little bit The thing is that folks out there want the folks in here to tell them that everything will be ok. Now the folks in here could tell the folks out there that it will be ok, but then the folks out there will switch off and go back into apathy mode. So if the folks in here give out the 'we're doomed vibes' then the folks out there might get around to doing something about it. In essence we are only doomed if the whole trade do nothing.

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Author:	Sussex [ Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:14 pm ]
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Richard1 wrote: Any comments, any ideas? Give us some questions you might like answers to.

Author:	toots [ Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:54 pm ]
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Sussex wrote: toots wrote: Don't be so cynical the pair of you, it's not doomed it's just going to have to adjust a little bit The thing is that folks out there want the folks in here to tell them that everything will be ok. Now the folks in here could tell the folks out there that it will be ok, but then the folks out there will switch off and go back into apathy mode. So if the folks in here give out the 'we're doomed vibes' then the folks out there might get around to doing something about it. In essence we are only doomed if the whole trade do nothing. You are assuming that they have come out of their apathy mode in the first place. Having said that I think as wonderful as this site is there are so many that are not aware of it or aware of the changes they could well be facing and that's not apathy it's ignorance, which some will tell you is bliss

Author:	toots [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:13 am ]
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http://youtu.be/Yc8wQb0hGjo Let the battle commence, me thinks it gonna get messy

Author:	Brummie Cabbie [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:40 am ]
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toots wrote: Don't be so cynical the pair of you, it's not doomed it's just going to have to adjust a little bit 'It's just going to have to adjust a little bit', my ar*e!!! Haven't you heard? They're dismantling the trade laws, throwing away the bolts that held it together and using pop-rivets to put a new law in place!! And we all know that the pop-rivets will soon shake lose!!

Author:	MR T [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:57 am ]
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Brummie Cabbie wrote: toots wrote: Don't be so cynical the pair of you, it's not doomed it's just going to have to adjust a little bit 'It's just going to have to adjust a little bit', my ar*e!!! Haven't you heard? They're dismantling the trade laws, throwing away the bolts that held it together and using pop-rivets to put a new law in place!! And we all know that the pop-rivets will soon shake lose!! The question you should be asking yourself............ is what organisation representing the trade.. ..... will be the one that you have to buy your new pop rivets from....??

Author:	grandad [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:54 am ]
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Brummie Cabbie wrote: toots wrote: Don't be so cynical the pair of you, it's not doomed it's just going to have to adjust a little bit 'It's just going to have to adjust a little bit', my ar*e!!! Haven't you heard? They're dismantling the trade laws, throwing away the bolts that held it together and using pop-rivets to put a new law in place!! And we all know that the pop-rivets will soon shake lose!! The problem with nuts and bolts is that they tend to rust and sieze in place and then it is very difficult to change them, where as with pop rivits, if they come loose you just drill them out and change them when it suits. A good way of dealing with laws.

Author:	captain cab [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:48 am ]
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Brummie Cabbie wrote: They're dismantling the trade laws, throwing away the bolts that held it together and using pop-rivets to put a new law in place!! And we all know that the pop-rivets will soon shake lose!! Their doing the majority of it with the help of those purporting to represent the taxi trade. CC

Author:	toots [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:43 pm ]
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Brummie Cabbie wrote: toots wrote: Don't be so cynical the pair of you, it's not doomed it's just going to have to adjust a little bit 'It's just going to have to adjust a little bit', my ar*e!!! Haven't you heard? They're dismantling the trade laws, throwing away the bolts that held it together and using pop-rivets to put a new law in place!! And we all know that the pop-rivets will soon shake lose!! I'm trying to spread a little optimism here

Author:	charles007 [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:10 pm ]
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been to a meeting to day now how the hell is the Public Authority Transport network Freigt Transoprt assocition. Hey wish to have a National Inspection Standards it say Abest practice guide produced by the Hackney Carriage and Private Hire inspection Technical Officer Group as one more officer group philip Baily SVA AND IVA Policy Engineer (Light Vehicles) vehicle & Operator Service Agency Roadworthiness & Testing Policy Group 60 pages of it.

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