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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:19 pm 
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Why do you think PH Operators seem to be now backing the two tier system?

To keep PH drivers and owners PH drivers and owners.



The thought of going from what is known....to the unknown.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:09 pm 
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It seems.... Mr buttons vision for the future went down like a lead balloon.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:13 pm 
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MR T wrote:
It seems.... Mr buttons vision for the future went down like a lead balloon.


What's Mr Button's vision, precisely?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:14 pm 
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MR T wrote:
It seems.... Mr buttons vision for the future went down like a lead balloon.


With other stakeholders......and their opinion counts for jack.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:17 pm 
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Dusty Bin wrote:
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It seems.... Mr buttons vision for the future went down like a lead balloon.


What's Mr Button's vision, precisely?

chaos

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:22 pm 
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chaos


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory

I wouldnt have give him credit, but fair play to the lad.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:42 pm 
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captain cab wrote:
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chaos


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory

I wouldnt have give him credit, but fair play to the lad.

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I didn't say he came up with the Theory....But if you create chaos all round you. and then created a position for yourself.... to be placed in charge of clearing up the mess... you will never be out of work.....imo.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:58 pm 
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Dusty Bin wrote:
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It seems.... Mr buttons vision for the future went down like a lead balloon.


What's Mr Button's vision, precisely?

One-tier.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:00 am 
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captain cab wrote:
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It seems.... Mr buttons vision for the future went down like a lead balloon.
With other stakeholders......and their opinion counts for jack.

I would hazard a guess that the final outcome will be nearer Mr Button's view of the future, than most if not all of the other so-called trade stakeholders.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:11 am 
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Sussex wrote:
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It seems.... Mr buttons vision for the future went down like a lead balloon.
With other stakeholders......and their opinion counts for jack.

I would hazard a guess that the final outcome will be nearer Mr Button's view of the future, than most if not all of the other so-called trade stakeholders.

from the amount of people against him...... that is now documented.... only a fool that wished to commit political suicide would take him seriously

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:30 am 
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With other stakeholders......and their opinion counts for jack.

I would hazard a guess that the final outcome will be nearer Mr Button's view of the future, than most if not all of the other so-called trade stakeholders.

from the amount of people against him...... that is now documented.... only a fool that wished to commit political suicide would take him seriously


For 'stakeholders' read 'vested interests' :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:35 am 
Sussex wrote:
captain cab wrote:
MR T wrote:
It seems.... Mr buttons vision for the future went down like a lead balloon.
With other stakeholders......and their opinion counts for jack.

I would hazard a guess that the final outcome will be nearer Mr Button's view of the future, than most if not all of the other so-called trade stakeholders.



Relative of yours?


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For 'stakeholders' read 'vested interests' :lol:


For button.....read 'manchester stall holders' and 'hackney PH Op licenses'.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:01 am 
Limited hackney carriage numbers

Over 25% of local authorities limit the number of hackney carriages that they will licence, based on the "no significant unmet demand" test (s15 Transport Act 1985 applied to s37 Town Police Clauses Act 1847). This leads to a market in licences (with licences commanding premiums of over £50,000 in some cases), and prevents entry to the market for those without significant capital. The process of limitation also involves enormous amounts of local authority time (both members and officers) and increases costs to the hackney carriage trade, without any demonstrable benefit to the travelling public..


So the legal profession is one of an open door then, anyone can become a solicitor if they want to, maybe we should start asking the monopoly commission to look into how they justify prices like there's then, after all, if we're going to get examined and tampered with, why not the legal eagles, £50 for a letter etc, £10k to say a man can have 20% and his ex wife 80%, yes lets make our mission one to bring legal costs down to a sensible level.


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Limited hackney carriage numbers

Over 25% of local authorities limit the number of hackney carriages that they will licence, based on the "no significant unmet demand" test (s15 Transport Act 1985 applied to s37 Town Police Clauses Act 1847). This leads to a market in licences (with licences commanding premiums of over £50,000 in some cases), and prevents entry to the market for those without significant capital. The process of limitation also involves enormous amounts of local authority time (both members and officers) and increases costs to the hackney carriage trade, without any demonstrable benefit to the travelling public..


So the legal profession is one of an open door then, anyone can become a solicitor if they want to, maybe we should start asking the monopoly commission to look into how they justify prices like there's then, after all, if we're going to get examined and tampered with, why not the legal eagles, £50 for a letter etc, £10k to say a man can have 20% and his ex wife 80%, yes lets make our mission one to bring legal costs down to a sensible level.


The legal profession was examined and opened up years ago that's why you have all those claim companies suddenly come out of the woodwork :wink: Incidentally anybody can become a solicitor, if you're prepared to go to college/uni and then 5 years of articles or you could become the 'private hire' of the legal trade and work your way up to legal executive

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