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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:27 am 
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Even with the present fares its getting quiet, and most drivers dont even get anything like the minimum wage I would have an educated guess that they will be on less than £3.00 an hour, for 70 to 80 hours a week
Any driver who drives receives a split bag and because of how much they have to hand over each week they think feck this and put there own cab on only to find out its tough at the top, and now they are starting to suffer.
I was interviewed yesterday by radio borders, and got my free advert in :wink: I informed them we needed a rise but not at this time, that went down like a lead balloon with some of the owners and drivers, I even mentioned that I would still do discounts for my regulars and students and would not be putting the £1.00 extra on until midnight.
The thing that really [edited by admin] them of was I said that the fares where the maximum and drivers are free to discount and the public should ask the drivers if they will before getting in.
They only have to put up with me for another 17 years or so before I retire, thats if the government dont price us off the road, and more than likely everyone who is working here now will have moved on and some more new idiots will have taken there place, yes its unbelievable what has happened in the last 28 years


So you are not just doing this until you get a proper job :wink:

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The last thing the public want to hear is that greedy fecking taxi drivers are ramming it right up them. :-|


Fare increases are often a thorny subject and I suppose each area has its own idiosyncrasies but whether or not this particular area can sustain an increase is not for me to say. Obviously most of those cab drivers who work this area were of the opinion that an increase was long overdue. They weren't prepared to accept the councils derisory offer so they appealed to the Traffic Commissioner. The Traffic commissioner then decided the councils offer was unreasonable. The rest is history but it is plain for anyone to see that the council didn't want any increase in fares whatsoever.

Perhaps these drivers were of the opinion that they weren't prepared to subsidise the public's use of taxis and that they would rather take the chance of losing a percentage of work rather than forego a fare increase?

Who knows? But it's their decision and there's alone.

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I noticed one or two errors in this document which have now been rectified. Anyone wishing to save this document as an accurate reference should download the amended version from the same url.

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/files/tcreport.pdf

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The last thing the public want to hear is that greedy fecking taxi drivers are ramming it right up them. :-|


Fare increases are often a thorny subject and I suppose each area has its own idiosyncrasies but whether or not this particular area can sustain an increase is not for me to say. Obviously most of those cab drivers who work this area were of the opinion that an increase was long overdue. They weren't prepared to accept the councils derisory offer so they appealed to the Traffic Commissioner. The Traffic commissioner then decided the councils offer was unreasonable. The rest is history but it is plain for anyone to see that the council didn't want any increase in fares whatsoever.

Perhaps these drivers were of the opinion that they weren't prepared to subsidise the public's use of taxis and that they would rather take the chance of losing a percentage of work rather than forego a fare increase?

Who knows? But it's their decision and there's alone.

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I agree with what your point but in these uncertain times . . . .

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but whether or not this particular area can sustain an increase


I don't think they gave this part any thought at all. This is the wrong time to pi*s the public off.

If they hike the tariff n Edinburgh, it's game over, the public simply won't wear it . They think we're a bunch of greed bas*ards as it is. The local press would eat us a live. :-|

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Look on the bright side, Mr. Skull, a fare increase in Edinburgh would therefore depress plate values, and you coul;d then buy another, and sit on it for a couple of years until things get better, then sell it on for a profit?

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I can understand the logic of a tariff increase due to increasing fuel prices but feck me, not while heading into a recession.

Taxis for most people are a luxury and there’s little enough work as it is. All a tariff rise means is fewer fares, higher rentals and less money.

If a tariff rise goes ahead in Edinburgh, it will feck us all


It doesn’t matter what you charge if no one is prepared pay.
I agree skull a fare rise will not work this time it must be a reduction in the fuel prices nothing else.


I heard on the Radio that shops increasing their prices face a fall customers coming through their doors.

When people stop spending they stop buying and when they stop buying retailers stop selling and on and on . . . down the plughole . . . .


Never mind people will still spend their money on taxis :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: NOT

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The logical conclusion of your argument against a fare rise would therefore be for a fare cut to increase the number of bums on seats. This may indeed be a bad time to introduce a fare increase. Please do let us know when it is a good time.

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Skull wrote:
They think we're a bunch of greed bas*ards as it is. The local press would eat us a live. :-|
The public think that anyway and as for the press - tomorrows chip paper.

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I think fares should go up in line with costs no-matter what state the economy is in. :shock:

The 7% rise in the Borders should equate to about two 20p clicks on a two mile job. If a punter is worried about 40p on a job, then let them use the bus.

But if they could use the bus, then they wouldn't be using us in the first place.

The real problem we have is the night-time economy is in an iffy period, but I can't believe those that do go out are going to be put off by a 40p increase each way.

Guys we do have bills to pay. :wink:

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Look on the bright side, Mr. Skull, a fare increase in Edinburgh would therefore depress plate values, and you coul;d then buy another, and sit on it for a couple of years until things get better, then sell it on for a profit?


Plates have no intrinsic "value" Jimbo, only the licence fee.

The reason a driver buys in is to reduce the uncertainty of his employment status, nothing more - 50k+ to buy a job.

You don't catch on very quick now do you Jimbo :roll:


Selling a plate for 50K+ is about finding mug that believes it has a value :roll: There's no shortage of Jimbos in Edinburgh, you'd be right at home up here. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Meanwhile, back in the real world:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... rough.html


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Skull wrote:
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Look on the bright side, Mr. Skull, a fare increase in Edinburgh would therefore depress plate values, and you coul;d then buy another, and sit on it for a couple of years until things get better, then sell it on for a profit?


Plates have no intrinsic "value" Jimbo, only the licence fee.

The reason a driver buys in is to reduce the uncertainty of his employment status, nothing more - 50k+ to buy a job.

You don't catch on very quick now do you Jimbo :roll:


Selling a plate for 50K+ is about finding mug that believes it has a value :roll: There's no shortage of Jimbos in Edinburgh, you'd be right at home up here. :lol: :lol: :lol:



Well thank you for explaining that for me skull. And in a non patronising way too. I'm very much at home in Lincoln though, and I don't really think I would be welcome in Edinburgh driving down plate, sorry licence (fee?) values, would I?

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Well at least one councillor shares my views.

http://www.thesouthernreporter.co.uk/ne ... 4128260.jp

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