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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:55 pm 
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thats true, what im saying is they class first class postage as being delivered. saying you didnt recive it doesnt wash with them.


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Sussex wrote:
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wouldnt the courts have to prove the requests for information were received to secure a conviction?

unless sent out recorded a cant see how they could

Well yes, but a mush would have to go to court to declare, under oath, that he/she didn't receive the letters.

And telling fibs in court will lead to jail, if caught out.


"Telling fibs in court" oh that's quality . . . . :lol:


I take it you've not been through our legal system, Sussex?

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I was involved in a court case where the defendant, in reply to his lawyer asking if he had his story straight, said: he was "just intending to tell the truth" :shock:

This was after the lawyer told him what to leave out.

His lawyer replied: "this is a court of law son, no one tells the truth in here, I suggest you and your chums get your stories straight".

Btw, half the witnesses appearing weren't even witness to the incident, the other half were lying anyway.


The guys I attended court with had never even considered telling the truth in the first place. It was about getting the dumb shmuck off with it - he nearly hung us all.

Naivety, is a dangerous thing in the criminal courts . . . . :shock:

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The only way of not receiving anything from the court is to be out when the post comes, the post will have a registered letter for you to sign for, or be out when the police come with the citation :wink:


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skippy41 wrote:
The only way of not receiving anything from the court is to be out when the post comes, the post will have a registered letter for you to sign for, or be out when the police come with the citation :wink:

Generally even summonses are delivered first class, not registered. :shock:

But if you don't turn up the buggers will try you in your absence. :shock:

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so..if you went Absent for a period of Two weeks after getting flashed and you couldnt sign for the registered letter youd get off scot free huh????

A likely story M'lud.


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so..if you went Absent for a period of Two weeks after getting flashed and you couldnt sign for the registered letter youd get off scot free huh????

A likely story M'lud.


If you do sign, isn't that an act of self-incrimination?

The right to remain silent.

Sign for what?

Who has to prove what, exactly ?

Nothing to prove nothing to fear, or am I mistaken?

The onus, is on who to prove what?

Innocence before guilt or after?

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The signing of the receipt for a recorded delivery item does not have to be done by the addressee, it can be done by anyone. You are only signing to say that the item has been delivered. It is what you do after this that is the important bit. Simply ignoring these things will not make them go away. Lets be honest here how many of us have been flashed by these things or caught by the mobile ones when we weren't actually speeding? You know if you were speeding or not and if you were you should take it like a man and learn from it and stop looking for loopholes to get you out of it.

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Its unfair though....Threatend by a 100% increase in Fine and points Unless you plead Guilty....thats not Justice rather its an Injustice.

A family Member of mine took the side out of her car a few years back after running out of road at the end of a Dualled road section narrowing into a single lane whilst trying to pass a Juggernaut...she knew somewhere along that 5 mile stretch was a speed camera and was so busy looking down at her speedo for fear of speeding to over take the lorry that was going to fast to let her overtake it within the speed limit (50)mph on that stretch that she ran out of road, Heavy Rain didnt help, panicked and tried to pull in to her left hand lane....the lorry driver didnt help much though he must have seen her predicament and she gouged the side out of her car....so Safety camera Partnership people if you should ever get your fat arses out of your Talivans or away from the static Cameras...heres one Accident thats down to you, thank you very much..
Im guessing this is not an Isolated case.


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Sorry, how is the accident down to the cameras???? If the overtaking manouver could not be carried out without speeding then it shouldn't have been attempted. The lorry going to fast is irrelivent.

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Sorry, how is the accident down to the cameras???? If the overtaking manouver could not be carried out without speeding then it shouldn't have been attempted. The lorry going to fast is irrelivent.


Its Simple my slow witted friend, she wasnt Speeding, she was trying to avoid speeding...irrelevant to the speed she was doing her mind was set on the issue of the safety camera...its not easy judging speed when a vehicle was along side so more of her attention was focused on the speedometer, this being brought about by a fear wrongdoing and of the Subsequent prosecution/persecution...now any Distraction whilst driving is bad and in this instance that distraction was the speed camera she knew to be somewhere nearby...have you followed me so far grandad..or are you that perfect breed of Driver that is at 100% aware of all and sundry and knows his exact speed at all times even if he didnt have a speedometer..I sense you have a Beligerence and bitterness which renders you unable to comprehend the basics of this instance..its only an example of the negativity of speed cameras grandad...no need to get on your morale High horse my old son...now, wheres the Aspirin???..


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Well to me it is obvious that the overtaking manouver should not have been attempted if the speed limit was already being hit and she could not pass. Slowing down and waiting would have been a better option. :roll:

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you only know if you are speeding if you know the speed limit on that bit of road, road signs are too far apart, and some roads go up/down/up/down - as if they want to confuse you

i got done through roadworks on the A30 going to cornwall, but i swear i never saw any speed limit signs, next time i fight it cos this country is being blighted by the traffic taliban


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grandad wrote:
Well to me it is obvious that the overtaking manouver should not have been attempted if the speed limit was already being hit and she could not pass. Slowing down and waiting would have been a better option. :roll:
I have to agree. Fear of a speed camera is hardly an excuse for poor driving.

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Boggins wrote:
Its unfair though....Threatend by a 100% increase in Fine and points Unless you plead Guilty....thats not Justice rather its an Injustice.

A family Member of mine took the side out of her car a few years back after running out of road at the end of a Dualled road section narrowing into a single lane whilst trying to pass a Juggernaut...she knew somewhere along that 5 mile stretch was a speed camera and was so busy looking down at her speedo for fear of speeding to over take the lorry that was going to fast to let her overtake it within the speed limit (50)mph on that stretch that she ran out of road, Heavy Rain didnt help, panicked and tried to pull in to her left hand lane....the lorry driver didnt help much though he must have seen her predicament and she gouged the side out of her car....so Safety camera Partnership people if you should ever get your fat arses out of your Talivans or away from the static Cameras...heres one Accident thats down to you, thank you very much..
Im guessing this is not an Isolated case.


Sounds like she and you are just trying to blame everyone else for her risktaking and dangerous driving.

If the lorry was going too fast to overtake within the speed limit then why did she try to, especially in heavy rain and with the road fast running out.

If she'd concentrated on her driving and the speed limit rather than thinking about the cameras then there wouldn't have been a problem :roll:


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Grandad....she was entitled to go in any lane she wished..it was dualled, they didnt put that outside there for the use of rabbits and pheasants only...so put that in you Malsham Pipe and Smoke it....and whilst your at it go book an Opticians appointment. Cantankerous Old fool.


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