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Are we likely to see a legal challenge to this decision as has been suggested by the local taxi trade?

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I don`t know as the meeting ended a bit abruptly but I am sure it will be in the local press in the morning.

In my opinion from the tone of the meeting it was pretty one sided in favour of derestriction by everyone on the commitee. There were also legal officers from the council in attendance and they seemed more concerned about being challenged for keeping the restrictions if anything.

If I recall correctly there was even mention of harrassment of committee members likened to the behaviour of the Mafia.It was a very interesting meeting.


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Are we likely to see a legal challenge to this decision as has been suggested by the local taxi trade?

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I don`t know as the meeting ended a bit abruptly but I am sure it will be in the local press in the morning.

In my opinion from the tone of the meeting it was pretty one sided in favour of derestriction by everyone on the commitee. There were also legal officers from the council in attendance and they seemed more concerned about being challenged for keeping the restrictions if anything.


Without a survey a legal challenge was always a distinct possibility.

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JD wrote:
Are we likely to see a legal challenge to this decision as has been suggested by the local taxi trade?

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I don`t know as the meeting ended a bit abruptly but I am sure it will be in the local press in the morning.

In my opinion from the tone of the meeting it was pretty one sided in favour of derestriction by everyone on the commitee. There were also legal officers from the council in attendance and they seemed more concerned about being challenged for keeping the restrictions if anything.


Without a survey a legal challenge was always a distinct possibility.

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There was even CCTV footage of people queuing at ranks submitted by the police as evidence of unmet demand along with concerns of anti social behaviour due to waiting times.
I think this would help justify the decision if it were to be challenged.


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I won`t be demonstrating as I am happy that I can now get a plate without having to pay through the nose for it.

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http://www.iru.org/index/cms-filesystem ... ry2007.pdf

JD Bubbles let your council see this and you could be the proud owner of a Skoda :D :D


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http://www.iru.org/index/cms-filesystem-action?file=en_publications/en_taxi_summary2007.pdf

JD Bubbles let your council see this and you could be the proud owner of a Skoda :D :D


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That the restrictions currently in place on Hackney carriage vehicle numbers be removed, with the requirement that new licences only be granted to applicants who propose to licence a new (at the time of registration) purpose built wheelchair accessible vehicle of a design and manufacture that is approved by the Licensing Authority.


Although the council de-restricted, at least they took what they thought was a sensible route on de-restriction. i.e. new plate must have brand new vehicle.

Just imagine if they had decided on a maximum age of 3 or 5 year old vehicles on the grant of a new HC licence. Then you would have had an instant flood of HCs.

But it will still lead to oversupply.


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That the relevant enforcement agencies be contacted to request that priority be given to the enforcement of the traffic regulations on designated Hackney Ranks to ensure maximum availability of rank space.


I wish our enforcement agencies in Birmingham were so instructed. Every man, their dog & their dog's aunties & uncles can park on a cab rank in Brum, & the relevant officers just walk on by.

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And if you're going to do a demonstration. them bring the place to a halt. bring in Liverpool and Sefton and all the local ones round you include Ellesmere Port


QUESTION;

Is it not time that the national trade, AS A WHOLE WITHOUT INTER-TAXI-TRADE POLITICS, started to think about a day or two of total action throughout the country to highlight the many issues that the trade is unhappy with?

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MR T wrote:
And if you're going to do a demonstration. them bring the place to a halt. bring in Liverpool and Sefton and all the local ones round you include Ellesmere Port


QUESTION;

Is it not time that the national trade, AS A WHOLE WITHOUT INTER-TAXI-TRADE POLITICS, started to think about a day or two of total action throughout the country to highlight the many issues that the trade is unhappy with?


First you would need to get agreement about what they are unhappy with :shock: That varies around the country and even from one cabby to the next. Off the top of my head the only thing EVERYONE agrees about is the cost of fuel.

Then you have to get them to agree to a course of action and stick together. That is a tall order :shock: :shock:

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First you would need to get agreement about what they are unhappy with :shock: That varies around the country and even from one cabby to the next. Off the top of my head the only thing EVERYONE agrees about is the cost of fuel.

Then you have to get them to agree to a course of action and stick together. That is a tall order :shock: :shock:


My own issues would be;

New sensible legislation for this trade, which would include repealing all previous legislation, but encompassing the still worthy parts of the existing law into the new legislation.

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Sensible new legisaltion with regard to HCV licencing & issuing of new HCV licences. By that I do NOT mean total regulation NOR total de-regulation, but some middle-road policy. And if they are still worried about the value of plates, then make the sale or transfer of plates a criminal offence. (I don't give a stuff about the value of my plate or not; I just want to earn a decent living working reasonable hours)

A new National Taxi Regulatory Authority, i.e. a new government sub-department within the Department for Transport, to co-ordinate the new legislation, so that the policies are enforced uniformly throughout the country. This happened in Ireland in recent years.

Staturory duties for local authorities to provide taxi ranks, where the HC trade request them. (Bus companies have a similar right already).

Perhaps a one-tier system; I can't see anything else working, OR more to the point being relatively easy to enforce.

There are many issues I am sure that the trade nationally can agree on. Those that are not agreed upon, we agree not to go with, concentrating on the big isues we do agree on.

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Oh what a mess this is..... licensing officers blaming Councillors.... councils blaming licensing officers.... both of them blaming the legal department..... and it could have been left alone until all the different districts combined into one .

It seems The hackney trade are not happy... it seems they have been paying money into the council to pay for a survey.... which the council have now decide they do not need.. it makes you wonder why they agreed in the first place for the hackneys to pay this money in.. there is talk of one of those very expensive judicial reviewes... there has been plenty of consultation... and plenty of forms sent out by the council... it's a pity that very few of the Hackney owners bothered to fill them in and send them back.....

and a question for Geoffrey bubbles bomb bomb... are all the Hackney's in Chester wheelchair accessible now.... meaning there are no saloon vehicles... as Hackney's

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and a question for Geoffrey bubbles bomb bomb... are all the Hackney's in Chester wheelchair accessible now.... meaning there are no saloon vehicles... as Hackney's


YES all the Hackneys are wheelchair accessible now.


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But it will still lead to oversupply.

Unless there is a sudden influx of new drivers then where does the oversupply come from? :?

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Off the top of my head the only thing EVERYONE agrees about is the cost of fuel.

Most drivers agree that driver's safety and driver's earnings are top of the agenda, alas drivers have umpteen different ways of trying to address these issues.

Most of them doomed to failure, cos the biggest gob on the ranks comes from the same head as the smallest brain. :sad:

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Most of them doomed to failure, cos the biggest gob on the ranks comes from the same head as the smallest brain.


You tell......... whoever said that to you...... that we disagree :lol:

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