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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:58 pm 
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And Where Pray is all The Electricity going to come from to power/recharge such Vehicles???

From Nuclear reactors located in the far north of Scotland. :wink:

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they were talking about it down the royal oak last night.

That's good enough for me. :D

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when you purchase this vehicle, you have to rent the battery at £480 a month.
You didnt think the gov would let you stop paying fuel tax did you?


Would not surprise me in the least and on a second thought, lets be honest the price of electricity supply is going up rapidly do you honestly believe that given a couple of years it wont be just as expensive as fuel, afterall it will be much the same thing we will suddenly become much more dependant on electricity and these suppliers will make the most of that!!

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Never understood why these vehicles can't have some kind of system like alternators on all wheels to generate the charge and get more miles.

Or do they already work like this??

And how much would it cost in electricity to charge it for 100 miles?

Would need to be really low to justify drivers spending 40k.


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Darren63 wrote:
Never understood why these vehicles can't have some kind of system like alternators on all wheels to generate the charge and get more miles.



I would imagine the problem is that you'd expend more power generating the charge than you would create, so it would all be a bit pointless.

Yes, the bit about the battery rental was in a magazine article - someone showed it to me on the rank last night, but to be honest I wasn't interested enough to take much notice.


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If the batteries are never yours, you're not getting much for your £40k.
Why not ask the cab manufacturer if this is true?

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the "green" arguement isnt sustainable, consider the "older" engined cars, for a while they were granted "classic" car tax status, which is now done away with (?) HMG want to force newer euro4 engined cars on us (paying vat/car duty/dvla fees, etc) yet how much in the way of emissions does it take to build a new car when the mk4 cortina outside only makes any when it runs?

the batteries in leccy/hybrid cars requires charging with leccy from atomic or coal burning power station...

then theres no way to recycle batteries...


HMG make a mint out of "green" taxes, but frankly dont give a damn overall... we buy hi-ash coal in from china too...

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the "green" arguement isnt sustainable, consider the "older" engined cars, for a while they were granted "classic" car tax status, which is now done away with (?) HMG want to force newer euro4 engined cars on us (paying vat/car duty/dvla fees, etc) yet how much in the way of emissions does it take to build a new car when the mk4 cortina outside only makes any when it runs?

the batteries in leccy/hybrid cars requires charging with leccy from atomic or coal burning power station...

then theres no way to recycle batteries...


HMG make a mint out of "green" taxes, but frankly dont give a damn overall... we buy hi-ash coal in from china too...


You sound like your cousin; wannabee-agreeney. Do you know him?

He's quite posh though with a double-barrelled name!!

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
the "green" arguement isnt sustainable, consider the "older" engined cars, for a while they were granted "classic" car tax status, which is now done away with (?) HMG want to force newer euro4 engined cars on us (paying vat/car duty/dvla fees, etc) yet how much in the way of emissions does it take to build a new car when the mk4 cortina outside only makes any when it runs?

the batteries in leccy/hybrid cars requires charging with leccy from atomic or coal burning power station...

then theres no way to recycle batteries...


HMG make a mint out of "green" taxes, but frankly dont give a damn overall... we buy hi-ash coal in from china too...


You sound like your cousin; wannabee-agreeney. Do you know him?

He's quite posh though with a double-barrelled name!!


hes the rich part of the family but brought shame on us with the sheep incident

we call him Baa baa the black sheep

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Turns out that the article was in the Sun motoring section.

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It also takes six hours to recharge the battery.

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Buyers will then pay £450 a month to hire the battery for six years, which makes it cheaper than the average diesel taxi which already costs around £480 a month to run.

Don't all rush at once :shock:


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Buyers will then pay £450 a month to hire the battery for six years, which makes it cheaper than the average diesel taxi which already costs around £480 a month to run.


And when councils around the country start to insist on these vehicles, & they will because we've all gotta go green, then the manufactureres will have the cab trade by the 'short & curlys'!

Bucking Fast Stewards!!

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I found out that the rental of the battery was mentioned in the Camden Gazette :?
Available free :P
But you have to buy a house in Camden first, or get them to give you a council house. :sad:


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Sussex wrote:
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And Where Pray is all The Electricity going to come from to power/recharge such Vehicles???

From Nuclear reactors located in the far north of Scotland. :wink:




Aye..but in scotland we Have an SNP government thats only has a small majority so that it relies on the loony green Vote to carry through its policies.....and hence the SNP wont Build Nuclear power stations..they only build Windmills by the thousand..I'l just have to take bookings on windy days when i finally buy my Austin Sparky electric Vehicle...


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Fae Fife wrote:
Turns out that the article was in the Sun motoring section.

The article said:

It also takes six hours to recharge the battery.

and

Buyers will then pay £450 a month to hire the battery for six years, which makes it cheaper than the average diesel taxi which already costs around £480 a month to run.

Don't all rush at once :shock:





As others have mentioned, turn the clock back 15 years and your 'latest' mobile phone came attached to a brick which took all night to re-charge.

Give these ion batteries a chance, if invesment is forthcoming they'll shrink and become more efficient as the years roll by.


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GBC wrote:
Fae Fife wrote:
Turns out that the article was in the Sun motoring section.

The article said:

It also takes six hours to recharge the battery.

and

Buyers will then pay £450 a month to hire the battery for six years, which makes it cheaper than the average diesel taxi which already costs around £480 a month to run.

Don't all rush at once :shock:

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As others have mentioned, turn the clock back 15 years and your 'latest' mobile phone came attached to a brick which took all night to re-charge.

Give these ion batteries a chance, if invesment is forthcoming they'll shrink and become more efficient as the years roll by.



£450 for the Battery, that might cost approximately the same as a Taxi cost to run, but thats like hiring the Taxis Diesel fuel tank for £450 per month as the Electricity required to charge it will still be required to be paid for and as we all know "Leckie" aint cheap. and then wheres the charging point going to be... if its at home and comes from your household Electricity Supply it means that for Tax purposes your going to have to register your home or part of it as being for Business use...then if the business fails owing money they have a right to a bit of the house value and you'd need to sell the house. thats life, for every positive there is an equal negative and as per usual it is the unforseen problem that will come back and haunt you.


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