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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:57 pm 
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GA wrote:
I think that is a total crock of $hit.

Could have been written by JD :oops:


Jim Button has long realised that current legislation is a dogs dinner but I think most cab drivers, on this site at least, realise his approach to change is seen from behind the tinted spectacles of a licensing enforcement officer. I am quite sure that those in the taxi trade would prefer the emphasis of any new legislation to be firmly on the side of those providing the service namely the cab driver.

While most of us realise that enforcement is part and parcel of any licensing regime it should not work to the detriment of cab drivers. Sadly Jim Button does not address that issue one little bit.

Considering legislation is not about to visit us before the demise of this current Labour Government then it is all academic but at least the institute of licensing are trying to draw the Governments attention to the shambles of this prehistoric legislation.

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I agree with your post..... but I personally think his reasons for change are solely for his own benefit :lol:

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I agree with your post


Most sensible people would. I was rather hoping you didn't. lol

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I remember being at one particular trade meeting....... and it was being addressed by a member of the POC......... the phrase (our business) was used quite a few times......... I should imagine that if any new legislation were to appear Mr B's company would generate quite a considerable amount of work across the country......

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MR T wrote:
I remember being at one particular trade meeting....... and it was being addressed by a member of the POC......... the phrase (our business) was used quite a few times......... I should imagine that if any new legislation were to appear Mr B's company would generate quite a considerable amount of work across the country......


You are quite welcome to follow in his footsteps, you're never too old to learn, ask Mrs Connolly.

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I am to honest........... to become a solicitor :lol: :lol:

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So you think national minimum standards is a 'crock of [edited by admin]'?


No Sussex .................. I believe his suggestions of what National Minimal Standards are, are being disguised to achieve his ultimate goal of a single tier system .............. and thats whats a crock.

So you have no problem with the so-called lower standards of Berwick working Newcastle and Gateshead?


But your addressing the problem and not the cause.

I think you will find that the majority of Berwick HC working in Newcastle and Gateshead are EX- NEWCASTLE and EX- GATESHEAD PH DRIVERS. They have transferred their licenses because of the rising COST OF LICENSING IN NEWCASTLE AND GATESHEAD .................. and not because of lower standards.

Again you tell us whats happening on our doorstep from 300 miles away .............. ITS DOWN TO MONEY AND NOT STANDARDS in the vast majority of cases.

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You think vehicles and drivers shouldn't be tested regularly?


Councils have the power to impliment driver and vehicle testing at a level they see fit now .............. no need to reform legislation, just change the advice on best practice.

Advice is all that, just advice.

Statute means councils can't cut corners and allow out of town cars to undercut the locals.


F**k off Sussex man ................... councils don't cut the corners, solicitors for PH firms find the corners that can be cut and demand that the councils cut them.

If the government state that it is best practice not to limit numbers then away you go shouting that the government are supporting and encouraging deregulation ................. quoting repeatedly what was written.

Your now going on about something else, and again something not related to the debate in this thread .................... if your council have a policy of giving contracts to out of town operators then you go in and sort it out, in court if thats what it takes ....................... but don't expect the Licensing law to change it for you because it may have a detrimental effect somewhere else ............................ still you've never really let that bother you before.

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You think drivers working 80-100 hours is a good thing?


Of course not

So that bit isn't a crock of [edited by admin] then?


Respond to the question raised then and not the statement that preceeded it.

ARE THE DRIVERS DOING 80 - 100 HOURS A WEEK BECAUSE THEY WANT TO.

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You think it's a bad idea to let taxis rank up in bus stops?


Its a great idea and something I asked to be implimented in some areas of Gateshead some time ago ...................

So having it everywhere isn't a crock of [edited by admin] then?


FOR HC YES .................. FOR PH NO.

Clear enough?

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the problem is that you do not explain within your argument that JD wants all licensed vehicles to be taxis and not HC as you have intimated within your response.

Your problem is that just because Mr Button advocates a single-tier system you call everything he suggests a crock of [edited by admin]. You need to open up your eyes a bit more.


Do you agree with the execution of child killers Sussex ?

Be careful cause using your logic if you say yes then I'll copy your tactic and claim that you agree with the killing of children.

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ARE THE DRIVERS DOING 80 - 100 HOURS A WEEK BECAUSE THEY WANT TO.

If they don't then why are they doing it and/or why are they still in the trade?

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FOR HC YES .................. FOR PH NO.

Clear enough?

Well eventually.

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Do you agree with the execution of child killers Sussex ?

Be careful cause using your logic if you say yes then I'll copy your tactic and claim that you agree with the killing of children.

Getting a tad daft now. :?

For the record I don't agree with state killings of anyone.

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Sussex wrote:
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ARE THE DRIVERS DOING 80 - 100 HOURS A WEEK BECAUSE THEY WANT TO.

If they don't then why are they doing it and/or why are they still in the trade?


BECAUSE THEY HAVE ENTERED INTO A 5 YEAR FINANCE AGREEMENT ON THEIR VEHICLE

BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORTGAGES AND FAMILIES TO SUPPORT

You and your pro deregulation buddies enticed people into the trade with promises of vast earnings on the basis that people needed to wait half an hour for a cab twice a week ........................ then when reality kicks in you turn round and say well why don't they leave the trade ................. your argument is flawed, and we told you it was flawed years ago.

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