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A reply worth answering........ on TDO.. there are many inaccuracies regarding derestriction


Such as?

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That is for me to know............. and you to find out... :wink:

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By which I understand that there is now a consensus appearing from the OFT that there may be justification for some continuing regulation.

Regulation of quality not quantity.

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A reply worth answering........ on TDO.. there are many inaccuracies regarding derestriction..... and it affects.... in certain areas of this country hackneys have never been regulated, so in those areas the trade will have evolved in a completely different way, the separation between hackney and private hire will almost be non-existent.

A great many people entered the trade before the 1985 Act was changed, the system at that time was that if you wanted a plate you paid for it. and that was the accepted system, the same as if you wanted your own home you pay for it, but then they cocked things up and squatters stole people's homes... but now they have changed the law again. and squatters get turfed out on their ears, but coming back to taxis. if you want to be a hackney driver and not be reliant on a private hire radio system to earn your income, then numbers need to be restricted for the driver to make his wages off the road. A true hackney driver wishes to rely on no one but himself.. the true hackney driver has now been ba*tardised with the influx of any Johnny-come-lately... and because of this.... the trade now has to be retrained...... deregulation should come with the warning,,,, that it can seriously damage your health. at the end of the day it's about professionalism and commitment.... if you take these away you end up with nothing.... and a trade that is worth nothing...... but you will end up with a few people across the country owning and running large private hire companies.... and making a great deal of money.... while drivers work longer hours....

And as for working on a level playing field... nobody is the same..... but we were all born the same. unfortunately some people are thicker than others..... reality...

Restriction of numbers.. is a extremely useful tool for a confident council...de- restriction of numbers is a admittance that the licensing section is inadequate and incompetence to fulfil the role they are employed to do.

I am sure somebody will argue that London is different..... but is it.... it takes three years out of your life to achieve the licence.... that's called commitment... the same as taking a loan out to pay for a plate.... commitment....


I can't make up my mind whether or not the above post was written by Mr King from Cardiff who used to own over 12% of the Cardiff hackney carriage fleet or Carlisle taxi owners association who tried to stop 60% their colleagues from plying for hire on the busiest taxi rank in town. Both of them have the same mentality of control as the author of that post. To suggest that the only option of control is by way of quantity control, is absurd.

I notice the author didn't advocate one license per person, which would be non transferable and the license holder also had to drive the vehicle. I suppose that wouldn't fit in with his clamour for quantity controls.

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You are entitled to your opinion as am I.... the fact that you're wrong has nothing to do with it :lol:

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I notice the author didn't advocate one license per person, which would be non transferable and the license holder also had to drive the vehicle. I suppose that wouldn't fit in with his clamour for quantity controls.


That's not a bad idea. Can we run with that?

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One man one plate...... and if he can't afford a taxi.......Fu*k him...... and I am the bad guy.. it says it all....

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By which I understand that there is now a consensus appearing from the OFT that there may be justification for some continuing regulation.

Regulation of quality not quantity.


If they had meant quality regulation they would not have used the word 'some', as quality regulation is already an option available to councils.

And also, the authorities done want some quality regulation; they want quality regulation, period!

The meaning relates to quantity regulation, but by using the word 'some' (Definition = an unspecified amount or number, an indeterminate quantity) they are stating that they do not mean full limitation on numbers.

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Something that might interest you JD, it seems that the Chester Taxi Association have had their own solicitor present at all dealing with the council from the start, I believe she's from Manchester. And a judicial review is looming.... imagine a set of Councillors telling the trade that they will have a survey when all the councils combine..... it is interesting to see how they can make decisions for a council that does not exist at present.

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Something that might interest you JD, it seems that the Chester Taxi Association have had their own solicitor present at all dealing with the council from the start,


Good, in that case she should know that she doesn't have a leg to stand on presuming Chester have consulted all relevant parties. I would advise her to contact TDO because it might save her clients several thousand pounds in court costs.

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Something that might interest you JD, it seems that the Chester Taxi Association have had their own solicitor present at all dealing with the council from the start, I believe she's from Manchester. And a judicial review is looming.... imagine a set of Councillors telling the trade that they will have a survey when all the councils combine..... it is interesting to see how they can make decisions for a council that does not exist at present.


The exact wording (which can be found in the minutes from the meeting) were

"Cheshire West and Chester Shadow Authority be asked to consider
undertaking an Unmet Demand Survey in July 2009 or at an
appropriate time after that. "

The solicitor representing was---

Mrs. Madeleine Abas
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First Floor,
Television House,
10-12 Mount Street,
Manchester
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I see your crystal-ball is working overtime,, you don't even know what she will be taking them to court over.... it will not be about de- restriction

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I see your crystal-ball is working overtime,, you don't even know what she will be taking them to court over.... it will not be about de- restriction


I suspect she doesn't know either.

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I see your crystal-ball is working overtime,, you don't even know what she will be taking them to court over.... it will not be about de- restriction


As long as I get my free plate I don`t care.


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Something that might interest you JD, it seems that the Chester Taxi Association have had their own solicitor present at all dealing with the council from the start, I believe she's from Manchester. And a judicial review is looming.... imagine a set of Councillors telling the trade that they will have a survey when all the councils combine..... it is interesting to see how they can make decisions for a council that does not exist at present.


The exact wording (which can be found in the minutes from the meeting) were

"Cheshire West and Chester Shadow Authority be asked to consider
undertaking an Unmet Demand Survey in July 2009 or at an
appropriate time after that. "

The solicitor representing was---

Mrs. Madeleine Abas
OAH
First Floor,
Television House,
10-12 Mount Street,
Manchester
M2 5NT

Funny thing about minutes..... they're not always the same as what is on a tape recording

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I see your crystal-ball is working overtime,, you don't even know what she will be taking them to court over.... it will not be about de- restriction


As long as I get my free plate I don`t care.

you'd better hurry up then otherwise you might have a long wait till after the trial

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