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Back in June 2007 Liverpool said they had 20 prosecutions on the go here are two of them but what happened to the other 18?
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Liverpool hackney carriage driver Derek Lyness, pleaded guilty at Liverpool Magistrates Court on 26 June, to taking excess fare. He was fined £150 plus £75 costs and £18 compensation (the excess part of the fare).

On 17 May David Dalton, a Liverpool private hire driver pleaded guilty at the Magistrates Court to plying for hire and associated insurance offences, he was fined £75 for the plying for hire offence, £150 for no third party insurance and 8 penalty points, with £75 costs.
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Anyone know how big a problem "ripping off punters" is in Liverpool?

I'm going to be politically correct and say that a certain element of Manchester hackney cab drivers are well known for ripping off the public, in fact I've had first hand experience of it, however, if I wasn't being politically correct I would have clarified that statement by saying the problem appears to lie within the culture of a certain ethnic persuasion. Therefore it would appear that Liverpool's problem is not unique, albeit that whereas the Manchester hackney carriage trade is predominantly made up of ethnics, Liverpool is predominantly made up of white males indigenous to this country.

Regards

JD

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It transpires that the prosecutions were not prosecutions after all but were dealt with under Liverpool's conditions of license at committee level.

The original article read as follows.

TWENTY taxi-drivers are being prosecuted following an operation to crackdown on cherry-picking and other offences.

In a frank discussion with Liverpool licensing department I was informed that up to 50 drivers had been suspended over cherry picking and one had his license revoked for a repeat offence. The spokesman said there is no actual offence on the statute for cherry picking and therefore they have to deal with the activity at council level.

Other points raised included the licensing of Rickshaws and Limousines, these have so far been declined and that policy is likely to continue indefinitely.

Cross border hiring was discussed and the recent and continuing applications to the DfT to change the law, which have so far proved fruitless.

Regards

JD

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Quote by JD: "...if I wasn't being politically correct I would have clarified that statement by saying the problem appears to lie within the culture of a certain ethnic persuasion. Therefore it would appear that Liverpool's problem is not unique, albeit that whereas the Manchester hackney carriage trade is predominantly made up of ethnics, Liverpool is predominantly made up of white males indigenous to this country."


I cannot offer solid proof but, anecdotal evidence from passengers does indicate a certain 'non-local' ethnic content to the majority of comments that I hear.

These include overcharging, use of the 'scenic' route and carrying numbers in excess of that provided for under the licence.

I continually advise people to take a note of badge and plate numbers and complain but, of course, it's too late by then!

Anyone know more details of this one?

Seems a big overcharge, does £18. Was it a hiring to a destination out of the districts?

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Define cherry-picking as you see it.

Or are you of the same opinion as me that there is an offence there?

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If it was out of his district, he could charge what he liked.

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That's why I am asking. If he has done it wrong, he can only charge meter.

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Liverpool have three tariffs on the meters..... pound to a penny.... he was charging tariff two when he should have been charging tariff one and they normally make the driver returned the full fare charged

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Not taking the first job as it's a s*** one.

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If that is the case. why aren't Liverpool taximeters Clock/Calendar controlled to avoid manual intervention by the driver.

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In that case the Liverpool licensing department spokesman does not know his asre from his elbow!!!

This is an offence under Section 53 TPCA 1847 which reads;

53 Penalty on driver for refusing to drive

A driver of a hackney carriage standing at any of the stands for hackney carriages appointed by the commissioners, or in any street, who refuses or neglects, without reasonable excuse, to drive such carriage to any place within the prescribed distance, or the distance to be appointed by any byelaw of the commissioners, not exceeding the prescribed distance, to which he is directed to drive by the person hiring or wishing to hire such carriage, shall for every such offence be liable to a penalty not exceeding [level 2 on the standard scale]

Total Scouse-land plonker!!

No wonder the trade is in such a mess, when those that are supposed to be policing it don't know what they are doing!!!

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Are you sure you are a hackney driver

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

coming from a Birmingham cab driver whose own trade asked to be deregulated that is some statement

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

I would have thought that was a sensible question.

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I am sure you would

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!