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JD...ASBO... I don't know if you're becoming more childish or more stupid.... either way you've lost the plot.......


I know you find it difficult to live with reality but you did make those comments and they are massively incorrect and they are deliberately deceiving are they not?

You are dammed by your own hand and it must surely pain you to see your naivity exposed in such a way that makes you look rather insignificant but I'll let others judge your comments because I've already done my part in exposing them for what they are.

Snide remarks won't earn you any brownie points but redemption might.

We can see you are a man who doesn't like to take his medicine when proven wrong that's an extremely bad trait for any trade official to have. It shows your belligerence to accept the truth even when the truth is black and white and it also displays inconsideration for those you represent by living in a world of self denial. I don't think anyone is best served by a person who fails to see the ball even when it hits bang on the head.

You should read your comments until you understand the person I'm describing, because that person is "you".

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Then take a deep breath and admit that the idea is garbage and you shouldn't have discussed it with anyone outside your own head.

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It is probably pointless debating with a man who believes the job description of a person driving a taxi for a living is something other than a taxi driver.

That really is a classic. You should tell that to your next BTEC class assuming you have one, I'm sure they will appreciate the "joke", as we all did.

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JD...ASBO... I don't know if you're becoming more childish or more stupid.... either way you've lost the plot.......


I know you find it difficult to live with reality but you did make those comments and they are massively incorrect and they are deliberately deceiving are they not?

You are dammed by your own hand and it must surely pain you to see your naivity exposed in such a way that makes you look rather insignificant but I'll let others judge your comments because I've already done my part in exposing them for what they are.

Snide remarks won't earn you any brownie points but redemption might.

We can see you are a man who doesn't like to take his medicine when proven wrong that's an extremely bad trait for any trade official to have. It shows your belligerence to accept the truth even when the truth is black and white and it also displays inconsideration for those you represent by living in a world of self denial. I don't think anyone is best served by a person who fails to see the ball even when it hits bang on the head.

You should read your comments until you understand the person I'm describing, because that person is "you".

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JD

You need to be committed..... but I suppose you'd been told that before.
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Then take a deep breath and admit that the idea is garbage and you shouldn't have discussed it with anyone outside your own head.

honestly



It is probably pointless debating with a man who believes the job description of a person driving a taxi for a living is something other than a taxi driver.

That really is a classic. You should tell that to your next BTEC class assuming you have one, I'm sure they will appreciate the "joke", as we all did.

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JD

And I see your back to referring to yourself as we... multiple personality that's you OK.

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and who will provide the admin and enforcement of the new legislation.


You have never liked the idea of taxi licensing being taken out of the hands of meddling councillors have you. And you have never liked the idea of new legislation either, I wonder why?

Admin and enforcement could be set up in a number of ways, the most logical would be to utilise existing infrastructure and staff complimented by an influx of new employees if needed. This brings into play the six regional traffic divisions.

Administration could easily be augmented from the current traffic setup and if need be additional regionalised offices could be brought into play. Assuming you pass all quality control requirements and obtain a License in the area you wish to work then that license would last indefinitely or until such time it was deemed appropriate under the new act. Therefore there would be a one off payment.

Each year, or perhaps ever two years whichever is deemed appropriate every cab driver would have to send in a sworn declaration. CRB checks would also be a requirement at an interval to be defined. Any driver failing to comply to these rules without reasonable cause would have their license suspended. All suspended and revoked licenses would be placed on the internet by number so that employers would be able to see the status of a license. It would be law that every employer employing a driver would be required to verify the status of that driver with their local office of administration before employment can commence. On leaving employment the employer would have to by law notify the local administration office that the driver had left their employment. All taxi driver data would be held on a national database accessible by all regional offices. In other words a person could not work for a third party operator without first being registered on the database.

The process covers two things a permanent license with a one off payment and verification of a drivers status before they are employed by a third party.

A driver who drives his own vehicle will be accountable by virtue of the fact that his vehicle is licensed and he is attached to the vehicle as its owner. Naturally there would be various degrees of statutory offences relating to the regulations surrounding drivers and vehicle owners.

Driver badges would also be graded for different licensing areas and it would be possible for one driver to have a badge that allowed them to work in several areas with the same vehicle providing they passed all the relevant quality control tests in those areas. There would an additional administration fee for handling CRB checks.

Under a one tier system enforcement would be conducted by VOSA and the revenue would come from an additional charge placed on vehicle inspections.

To be continued.

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And I see your back to referring to yourself as we... multiple personality that's you OK.


Weren't you amused at an ex T&G reps interpretation of the job description of a taxi driver? "A man who drives a Taxis is not a taxi driver"?

I think that's an excellent description for a man of GA's capabilities. Or are you also of the opinion that a man who drives a taxi is not a taxi driver?

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Seems like you get blamed for everything Sussex?

Couldn't give a flying f***. :wink:

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or is what I have just said a lie???????????????

A complete lie, but is anyone surprised? :?

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and who will provide the admin and enforcement of the new legislation.


You have never liked the idea of taxi licensing being taken out of the hands of meddling councillors have you. And you have never liked the idea of new legislation either, I wonder why?

Admin and enforcement could be set up in a number of ways, the most logical would be to utilise existing infrastructure and staff complimented by an influx of new employees if needed. This brings into play the six regional traffic divisions.

Administration could easily be augmented from the current traffic setup and if need be additional regionalised offices could be brought into play. Assuming you pass all quality control requirements and obtain a License in the area you wish to work then that license would last indefinitely or until such time it was deemed appropriate under the new act. Therefore there would be a one off payment.

Each year, or perhaps ever two years whichever is deemed appropriate every cab driver would have to send in a sworn declaration. CRB checks would also be a requirement at an interval to be defined. Any driver failing to comply to these rules without reasonable cause would have their license suspended. All suspended and revoked licenses would be placed on the internet by number so that employers would be able to see the status of a license. It would be law that every employer employing a driver would be required to verify the status of that driver with their local office of administration before employment can commence. On leaving employment the employer would have to by law notify the local administration office that the driver had left their employment. All taxi driver data would be held on a national database accessible by all regional offices. In other words a person could not work for a third party operator without first being registered on the database.

The process covers two things a permanent license with a one off payment and verification of a drivers status before they are employed by a third party.

A driver who drives his own vehicle will be accountable by virtue of the fact that his vehicle is licensed and he is attached to the vehicle as its owner. Naturally there would be various degrees of statutory offences relating to the regulations surrounding drivers and vehicle owners.

Driver badges would also be graded for different licensing areas and it would be possible for one driver to have a badge that allowed them to work in several areas with the same vehicle providing they passed all the relevant quality control tests in those areas. There would an additional administration fee for handling CRB checks.

Under a one tier system enforcement would be conducted by VOSA and the revenue would come from an additional charge placed on vehicle inspections.

To be continued.

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JD
Now let me see.. it's 400 pound now for road tax...... so a licence to make a living from... let's see 4 grand a year...... and my friends in the MoT stations tell me that there is a very good likelihood that the vehicle testing will be sold to a German company in the near future....


and as for the rest of this rubbish you're really trying to tie Taxi driver's to a post .

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Then take a deep breath and admit that the idea is garbage and you shouldn't have discussed it with anyone outside your own head.

honestly



It is probably pointless debating with a man who believes the job description of a person driving a taxi for a living is something other than a taxi driver.

That really is a classic. You should tell that to your next BTEC class assuming you have one, I'm sure they will appreciate the "joke", as we all did.

Regards

JD


Have you ever heard the expression "failing to plan is planning to fail".

or "its all in the preparation".

You are obviously of the opinion that drivers of either HC or PH vehicles should not consider themselves as being professional.

But that suits you ............. that gives you your perceived power. Keep the drivers thinking that they are constantly trodden on by everyone in authority and never given a chance to improve.

The fact of the matter here is that you do not believe in the basic principle that if you work hard you can achieve whatever you want from life, choosing instead to argue that regardless of effort everyone should have the same.

I bet your against school sports days, I bet your against people winning on the basis that someone has lost ................. have you no personal ambition.
You are the kind of scum that scratches the new Mercedes because no-one has given you one ....................... and if you can't have one then no-one else should.

As far as the joke, and who's laughing at who, in the real world where you have only one name and people know it I'm not frightened or ashamed of my opinion ................... on the other hand your so sure that your right you hide behind a shared username and other aliases for fear of a reoccurance of what happened to you everyday you spent bullied at school, pi$$ing in your pants in case the big boys heard you calling them names.

Thank god the internet lets you play with the big boys you insignifigant excuse for a man ...................... you fear loosing your mask only because it stops people laughing in your face.

B. Lucky :D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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well.........One Tier Sucks.. there is no need whatsover to tamper with the Status Quo. it works just fine. The Issues that are Problems now will still be problems after Billions of pounds of money are needlessly thrown at a System which is perfectly serviceable as is. And another Thing as an ex PSV operator owner the last thing you want is the Omnipotent and all Encompassing Might of Vosa Breathing down your neck..its to be more dreaded for its adherence to needless regulation and more covert than the Dreaded Stasi...no way...your lot would become unbearable due to Expensive Bureaucracy thats just not needed.


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And I see your back to referring to yourself as we... multiple personality that's you OK.


Weren't you amused at an ex T&G reps interpretation of the job description of a taxi driver? "A man who drives a Taxis is not a taxi driver"?

I think that's an excellent description for a man of GA's capabilities. Or are you also of the opinion that a man who drives a taxi is not a taxi driver?

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JD
So a man that owns a company and is employed by the company is a employee

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And another Thing as an ex PSV operator owner the last thing you want is the Omnipotent and all Encompassing Might of Vosa Breathing down your neck..its to be more dreaded for its adherence to needless regulation and more covert than the Dreaded Stasi...no way...your lot would become unbearable due to Expensive Bureaucracy thats just not needed.


Guess what?

In Birmingham, we've had VOSA random, on the spot inspections hanging over our heads for about a year now.

The policeman that is permanently attached to our licensing department is himself a trained VOSA inspector.

And we've had some fun with them.

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So a man that owns a company and is employed by the company is a employee


I'm not interested in companies, or taxi drivers registered as limited companies. I do assume you were referring to limited companies because any other company would make you look a real clown.

All I'm interested in is the job description of a person who drives a taxi.

If you don't find GA's job description of a cab driver hysterically funny then just say so, no ones going to give you a hard time for sticking up for your buddy?

I must admit that both your comments are getting more childish by the day and I suspect the good folk visiting this website are getting increasingly bored with it all. In future if you can't say anything sensible then it might be best if you don't say it at all.

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The policeman that is permanently attached to our licensing department is himself a trained VOSA inspector.




Exactly my point...its the measure and needs of these people that they enjoy the power to Control and Manipulate other peoples lives.


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