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BTW. The plonker I was referring to was the Liverpool licensing officer & no other Scouser.

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Well you are right and funny enough that's the question I put to him but without knowing the circumstances we both could be wrong couldn't we. What would you say if the person was sat there with his light out not plying for hire? Someone comes along and says can you take me around the corner and the driver says I'm "booked". Someone else comes along and says take me 30 miles down the road and he suddenly becomes unbooked.

Refusing to drive only applies when you are actually plying for hire, In this circumstance as was pointed out to me, the driver was not plying for hire or refusing to drive because he said he was booked.

Its easily mistaken without knowing the circumstances.

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I suppose it has to do with the way Liverpools boundaries are laid out. a city driver would never ask for money up front if he was only going three miles. the Mersey Tunnel is right in the centre of Liverpool... they do loads of work through the pipe. just to the other side..

in the end I suppose it's what you find best that works in your city..... Merseyside police will always make sure the driver gets paid what is on his meter .... asking for money up front, particularly at this time.... can well be construed as cherry-picking......

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Obviously you believe what you say but please explain why you believe it could be construed as cherry picking?

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I think the driver is still committing an offence under Section 53.

When the 1847 Act came in, there were no 'For Hire' lights. Hackney cabs/coaches stood on the road & could be hired, just like now. The light is just a convenience for the public.

The fact that his light was on or not makes no difference because of the driver's actions. He refused one customer, then without being hired by his 'booked' fare, he accepted another job.

IMO he has transgressed Section 53, light on or not.

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I would agree.
Unless his booked job cancelled on him between the two approaches? He may have to prove it though.

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

If a passenger is going outside of your area.... than you would quote him a price..... I would never under quote, I would over quote, and then give him the difference back at the end of the journey...... but if you over quote now they'll say you're cherry-picking.... it's not just about picking the best job it's also about overcharging....

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

I think what you are describing is overcharging, cherry picking is related to the type of job, whether long or short? If the job finishes outside his licensed area a driver can ask for any amount he chooses, . He can also state that the fare will be the clock plus a half, or a third, or double the clock, or whatever?

He can also ask for a deposit of his choosing but at the end of the day the driver has to comply with the terms of the contract hire. Therefore asking for a deposit upfront can in no way be construed as cherry picking.

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This thread starts off about cab drivers overcharging... and then your next post brings in cherry-picking...... which really makes no odds...... the Liverpool public see them as the same..... if a driver is sitting off, telling the public he is not for hire, and then the public start to offer much more than the fair.... just to get home..... and he suddenly becomes free.... he is actually holding the public to ransom... and this goes on week after week.... it's no wonder that professional Liverpool Hackney drivers want them gone

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Well the Liverpool public are mistaken and they need to be educated, however I doubt they are as asinine as you make them out to be because I think they understand the difference between being selective and overcharging,

Taxi drivers in Liverpool are being suspended not because they overcharge but for sitting outside night clubs with their lights off knocking back jobs.



A driver can charge what he wants out of the area and if he charges more than the fare inside the area he is breaking the law. There is no distinction whatsoever between cherry picking and overcharging.




If I was a Liverpool cab driver and someone wanted to sit around for 45 minutes while I did three or four jobs I'd be more than happy. There must be plenty of work in Liverpool if drivers can sit around for 45 minutes, I was under the impression they were complaining about there being no work in Liverpool because delta have taken it all.

The bottom line is that Cherry picking means selecting jobs and has nothing whatsoever to do with overcharging.

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JD

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But there was a flag and if the flag was down then the vehicle was perceived not to be for hire, by law.



Each circumstance is based on its own individual facts and there are occasions when hackney carriages undertaking private bookings have to wait excessively long periods for their customers to arrive. Therefore it would be wrong to assume that everyone sat waiting for a job knocking back members of the public was breaking the law.



You have a point but all prima facie cases are subject to interpretation of their individual facts and whereas in some cases you might gain a conviction, in others you might not.

Have a look at Hunt v Morgan

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JD

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The Liverpool press are combining the two as one .... so the Reports which you read are misleading... and as you gain your knowledge from these reports..... your knowledge is flawed...... but what do I know........... I only live here.....

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Two minutes cash booking, ten minutes account job. Anything longer & the customer is taking you for a *****.

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