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I think everyone except you is of the opinion that legislation will be formed either sooner or later. Whether it be later is immaterial.



How observant you are!



"Supposedly" is the optimum word in that paragraph because we are not public transport as defined in the ordinary sense of the word. We might be licensed to ply for public hire but that is as far as it goes. We provide a service to the public but then so does every shopkeeper that opens their doors at 9am every morning. When the Taxi trade starts getting public subsidies in line with buses etc then we can perhaps be considered as public transport.



But we are not the same as buses, trains and the rest as you put it.



The only time you will make any sense is if you ever grasp hold of the reality of the subject matter and stop making pointless distractions that serve only to highlight your own stupidity.



What don't you understand about administration? The administrator can only administer that which they are empowered to administer. It doesn't matter if its the Traffic Commissioner or someone else, they can only administer what is written down in legislation and considering nothing is yet written down in legislation your whole argument is meaningless until such time it is.

I think in your case it might be wiser to first concentrate on the legislation and then decide who is to administer it. It would solve a lot of confusion in your obviously overcrowded head



I wasn't aware legislation had been written to determine who administers taxi licensing or how it is to be administered? Legislation can only be administered according to law and if some people have voiced concerns about the way other legislation is administered then they are foolish to equate that legislation with what might eventually be written into any new taxi legislation. You make the mistake of associating current bus legislation with any new taxi legislation, which is the wrong thing to do as new taxi legislation hasn't even been written.



I don't know if having an "opinion" is equal to the definition of "quest" but perhaps in your book it is, however I am of the opinion that new legislation is required and if anyone disagrees with that then that is their prerogative. I can only put the arguments for change as I see them and if people are persuaded by those arguments then so be it but at the end of the day I have no intention of mimicking your personality by subjecting them to verbal abuse if they don't agree with my points of view.



Yes it is very simple, "get a grip of what's being debated"!

Regards

JD

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I see you retort to your usual abuse when the pros and cons of an issue are a little highbrow for you.

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IDFIMH

But Sussex he's the one throwing personal insults mate ............... not me.

Lets all wait until the decisions are made and then try and change them ................ what a f**king stupid idea that is.

There has still be no acknowledgement that new legislation will never be forthcoming to the levels that either you or JD ( ) have as an ideal ........... there s nothing wrong with wishing for something like that but the people reading this will believe that its just around the corner when in fact the soonest it could happen is 3 years and thats if everyone agrees.

Now based upon the fact that this IOL lot, obviously influenced by the JD posse, are trying to set themselves up as some kind of authority on the subject of licensing, coupled with the fact that their principles seem to fly in the face of every other representative organisation I would estimate the total time needed to produce new legislation to be more than one persons lifetime.

Why is the London PH Act not being recognised as a legitimate alternative to current National PH legislation?

What has changed in the basic operation of a HC since 1847?

You say that I resort to abuse when my small brain cannot cope with argument.

Well what does that make you and the other two who make up JD if you need to invent abuse to get out of answering questions.

B. Lucky

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Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

Don't really know, maybe it's because most of it is based on the 1976 Mis Act, and we already have that.

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IDFIMH

Berwick hackneys working in Newcastle for starters.

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IDFIMH

I couldn't care less, but one thing I'm not, unlike you, is completely paranoid.

You need to grow up.

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IDFIMH

I just wonder what is so wrong with the London PH Act?



Many times your tactic of patial quoting is used to try and suggest that the objector to your plan of destruction doesn't know what they are talking about .................... however away from your safety blanket that is TDO people do actually read the previous posts and so don't rely on your edited versions ............... so its you that looks the dick.



Are you sure that your happy for the JD brand name to put to that last section ............ whether in practice we are or we are not ............. the govenment have gone on written record describing taxis and PH vehicles as being part of a fully integrated public transport system.
The point you raise is that you don't feel part of a integrated public transport system ............ and if you had said that then I would have had to agree with you ............. but the written fact remains.



The government disagrees though doesn't it, in thought and description if not in practice.


What would it make sense to ................... why do you try so hard to change what I post, is it only because it shows you for what you are.

My stupidity ................ thats rich coming from a bloke who cannot even hold a simple debate and respond to the opposing points raised without altering the question and quotes used.

[quote-"JB"]


What don't you understand about administration? The administrator can only administer that which they are empowered to administer. It doesn't matter if its the Traffic Commissioner or someone else, they can only administer what is written down in legislation and considering nothing is yet written down in legislation your whole argument is meaningless until such time it is.

I think in your case it might be wiser to first concentrate on the legislation and then decide who is to administer it. It would solve a lot of confusion in your obviously overcrowded head [/quote]

My head is overcrowded as I'm a man in demand ............ your going daft cause your a man in decline.

Any legislation written is subject to appeal before the magistrates and is subject to interpretation.



What about the London PH Act ............... was a new authority formed or was it placed in the hands of the PCO.



Verbal abuse on a online forum ............. how do we do that ............ or are we just getting so concerned we are not thinking properly.

I can honestly say that I have never subjected anyone to verbal abuse when they have disagreed with my opinion ................. if you ever grow the balls to let your true identity be known and meet with me you would discover this.

I don't agree with a lot of what your mate Sussex wants for the trade .......... did I subject him to verbal abuse when I met him ............. and have I ever uncovered his identity?



I have a good understanding of what is being debated and can form a resonable idea of timescale for implimentation of your posse's suggestions.

The fact remains that legislation for the PH side of the trade is in massive need of review ................. so why not adopt legislation that has recently been written and takes into account modern technology?

You know I'm right ............... thats why you don't answer my questions.

Over to you .....................

B. Lucky

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Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

so it wouldn't cause much desruption when implimented ............ another plus point for its adoption.

we may have most of it .................. but the things that are different are the things that will make the most difference.

B. Lucky

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"Here's a simple solution. If you don't want to pay more for a premium service then wait in the queue, problem solved".
Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

But the use of HC under PH contracts is not within the 1847 Act as far as I'm aware PH were not recognised in legislation until 1976.

The 1847 Act describes a "prescribed distance" as a "boundry" of operation of a HC.

B. Lucky

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"Here's a simple solution. If you don't want to pay more for a premium service then wait in the queue, problem solved".
Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

Paranoia is a state of mind ................... I'm quite happy knowing what I know ................. because when I know I don't name names do I Sussex me auld pal.

B. Lucky

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"Here's a simple solution. If you don't want to pay more for a premium service then wait in the queue, problem solved".
Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

What a good idea, we change the PH bits in the 1976 act to the 1997 act, when the 1997 act is almost the same as the 1976 act.

Why not tell us what supa dupa sections the 1997 act has that the 1976 act doesn't?

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IDFIMH

I have never understood this one from the point of view:

Why don't Newcastle LA prosecute Berwick HCs for operating as PH on circuits operated by Newcastle PH operators & also prosecute those Newcastle PH operators for operating vehicles that are not Newcastle licensed PHVs or HCs operating on their system?

IMO a licensed taxi in one LA does not become a licensed PH in another LA, just because the driver feels like it.

It just does not make sense!! If it did make sense, there would be no point in licensing, i.e. what would be the point of LA district licensing?

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Kind regards,

Brummie Cabbie.

Type a message, post your news,
Disagree with other members' views;
But please, do have some decorum,
When debating on the TDO Forum.

If you spent a bit more time looking at real issues effecting the trade, instead of acting the tit, you might gain a bit more respect from your peers.

But you have spent the last 6/7/8 years concentrating on the personalities and ignoring the issues that matter.

Maybe that's why your manor is in a mess.

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IDFIMH

When I was chair in my manor sunny jim ........ the trade got -

The biggest fare rise in the history of the Borough.
Access to bus lanes.
Adverts on the cars.
Changes to the locality tests.
New ranks in prominant areas where there is potential for work.
Consulted on every issue involving the trade.
Suspension of the HC plates.
A pro-active association.

Now I would have to say that the credit for the achievements has to go down to every member of the association for supporting their committee.

On a personal level .............. if you think I'm a tit then why did you not call me one to my face while you were driving me down to Brighton ............. I'll tell you why ................ cause your a real big man when your behind a keyboard but your balls disappear when its in your face ................ I won't disclose your identity to anyone, but rest assured I will not put up for a second you calling me names like that for no reason.

B. Lucky

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"Here's a simple solution. If you don't want to pay more for a premium service then wait in the queue, problem solved".
Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

Referances to modern technology and working practices.

Now, instead of answering questions with questions tell me WHY we should be discounting the London Act ..................... as it seems to me that your calls for up to date legislation mean more than just a new Act.

B. Lucky

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"Here's a simple solution. If you don't want to pay more for a premium service then wait in the queue, problem solved".
Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.