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When is the next court date???? it cannot be that far off,
there maybe even a general election shortly and this would help to get rid of the cr@p in the council


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:19 pm 
The first case comes up in October.

Depending on the outcome of that, we will progress mine accordingly.

Can't wait.

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The first case comes up in October.

Depending on the outcome of that, we will progress mine accordingly.

Can't wait.

8)


Glad to here it, its just a pity that the Scottish government decided to retain the right to limit numbers in its best practice guidance or that could have been used as well


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SAF, you seem unable to get it into your head that I can only win. I can't lose. Because the battle isn't over until I say it is.

The recent downturn makes the case for more taxis even more justified.

Because as things get worse, then those who drive taxis need even more flexibility to control their costs. And operating their own taxi allows them to do just that.

Anyone heard of any rentals being voluntarily reduced by the 1200 owners because the takings are down? Nope, I thought not.

Or are guys are having to work longer to make the same money?

Then there's the safety aspect. Unable to control costs normally drivers work longer. That increases the potential risk to passengers and the public. If the trade doesn't loosen its belt on taxi plates, then some European Directive will be introduced to restrict the hours drivers can work. It's already been mooted. All it will take to be brought in is some slave driver using tiredness as an excuse for the accident he's caused.

And you seem to have missed the point about Fairways. These vehicles would have been removed from the fleet normally in any case. The council dictating the short period for their removal just cost the trade millions. It also sent the signal that the council could do whatever it like and the trade would go along with it.

That's why there is no opposition to taxibuses. BTW, you seem to think that low passenger numbers will bring an end to the council's taxi service. You obviously don't understand business. Perhaps you haven't noticed the £275,000 buses that drive through the night substantially empty? This hasn't caused a reduction in night services.

When a pet project doesn't make money, the council, through Lothian Buses, simply cross-subsidises from elsewhere within the business. They will never lose face by withdrawing this service.

Now, let me see. The RC convener says the council's demand info is flawed, that there could be demand elsewhere, all while the council is setting up and expanding its taxibus service? The only thing that's missing so far is the hearing to put this before a Sheriff. And if the Justiciary truly is independent, and we don't get Sheriff Mackie (a protest would be lodged for appeal purposes) it has to be a given.

Now, I wonder how the rest of the 70% of UK authorities have managed all this time. And Aberdeen who seem to be surviving the cataclysm you seem to fear.



Will the new survey be flawed as well Jim?
"i can only win","i cant lose",words of a mad man i think.
As for the rest of your post its the same old rubbish Jim.
Do you want me to tell you the outcome of the case in October or do you just want to wait. :shock:
So any way good luck in the next chapter of your silly little crusade Jim but i think we all know there is only going to be one winner in this and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work it out. :cry:


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The new survey is irrelevant to our cases. Even a sad thicko like saf should realise that.

Niw, I suggest you crawl back under your stone and watch what happens next.

It's a stoater :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Perhaps you haven't noticed the £275,000 buses that drive through the night substantially empty? This hasn't caused a reduction in night services.




http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Bus-firm-to-axe-.4343696.jp

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• Lothian Buses wants to axe services 13, 20, 60, and Night Buses N11 and N27 by October 5.

• Major cutbacks are planned for the 12, 18, 24, 32, 42, N8, N16, N26, N30, N31 and N44 services.


not trying to take the p**s Jasbar but as you can see from last weeks papers the local bus company is feeling the pinch and is now cutting back some day services and night services during the week as its just not paying them to run it
mind you a pay cut might help :lol: :lol: :lol:


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jasbar wrote:
The new survey is irrelevant to our cases. Even a sad thicko like saf should realise that.

Niw, I suggest you crawl back under your stone and watch what happens next.

It's a stoater :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Not that old chestnut. :D
Is it a bigger stoater than the last one,or the one before that or the one before that?
Why are you driving the R-reg instead of the T-reg Jim,what happened?
You do hear the stories but you know about all the gossips out there.


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Perhaps you haven't noticed the £275,000 buses that drive through the night substantially empty? This hasn't caused a reduction in night services.




http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Bus-firm-to-axe-.4343696.jp

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• Lothian Buses wants to axe services 13, 20, 60, and Night Buses N11 and N27 by October 5.

• Major cutbacks are planned for the 12, 18, 24, 32, 42, N8, N16, N26, N30, N31 and N44 services.


not trying to take the p**s Jasbar but as you can see from last weeks papers the local bus company is feeling the pinch and is now cutting back some day services and night services during the week as its just not paying them to run it
mind you a pay cut might help :lol: :lol: :lol:




Priceless,once again Jim doesn't do his homework before spouting his mindless drivel. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I think they should be looking at reducing the taxi numbers because we all know there are far to many. :shock:


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jasbar wrote:
Perhaps you haven't noticed the £275,000 buses that drive through the night substantially empty? This hasn't caused a reduction in night services.




http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Bus-firm-to-axe-.4343696.jp

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• Lothian Buses wants to axe services 13, 20, 60, and Night Buses N11 and N27 by October 5.

• Major cutbacks are planned for the 12, 18, 24, 32, 42, N8, N16, N26, N30, N31 and N44 services.


not trying to take the p**s Jasbar but as you can see from last weeks papers the local bus company is feeling the pinch and is now cutting back some day services and night services during the week as its just not paying them to run it
mind you a pay cut might help :lol: :lol: :lol:


Thanks for that Chipper. As I don't read the News every night I miss somethings.

Interestingly if saf is correct and the taxibus doesn't make a profit it will suffer the same axe? Wanna bet this doesn't happen.

The council admitted that do subsidise under threat services, they just don't have the cash to do so at present.

Lothian Buses being an arms length company allows the councillors to wash their hands of responsibility for the way the company operates. And if they not responsible, they can not then be accountable. Some democracy this is, eh?

Fact is, all of these services can easily be reinstated in better times. better times which saf and his eejits told us didn't merit the introduction of taxis, just the introduction of more buses. Like when Jim Muldoon, representing the Scottish Taxi federation, told us we didn't need more taxis but more buses should be put on. So he and his cronies could continue to milk drivers for high rentals.

As for saf, he clearly doesn't understand what's happening in the cases coming to court. He seems to think like the council that they can wait until an application comes in an then do a survey to deny licences. The Dundee case proved this is not so.

As for the taxi I drive, saf you're looking at the wrong guy. You've just proved yourself the real thicko. Why don't you approach me and put your case face to face, eh? Show me that you have some bottle and a real argument, rather than sniping like a wee fisherwifie on the sidelines?


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jasbar wrote:
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jasbar wrote:
Perhaps you haven't noticed the £275,000 buses that drive through the night substantially empty? This hasn't caused a reduction in night services.




http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Bus-firm-to-axe-.4343696.jp

Quote:
• Lothian Buses wants to axe services 13, 20, 60, and Night Buses N11 and N27 by October 5.

• Major cutbacks are planned for the 12, 18, 24, 32, 42, N8, N16, N26, N30, N31 and N44 services.


not trying to take the p**s Jasbar but as you can see from last weeks papers the local bus company is feeling the pinch and is now cutting back some day services and night services during the week as its just not paying them to run it
mind you a pay cut might help :lol: :lol: :lol:


Thanks for that Chipper. As I don't read the News every night I miss somethings.

Interestingly if saf is correct and the taxibus doesn't make a profit it will suffer the same axe? Wanna bet this doesn't happen.

The council admitted that do subsidise under threat services, they just don't have the cash to do so at present.

Lothian Buses being an arms length company allows the councillors to wash their hands of responsibility for the way the company operates. And if they not responsible, they can not then be accountable. Some democracy this is, eh?

Fact is, all of these services can easily be reinstated in better times. better times which saf and his eejits told us didn't merit the introduction of taxis, just the introduction of more buses. Like when Jim Muldoon, representing the Scottish Taxi federation, told us we didn't need more taxis but more buses should be put on. So he and his cronies could continue to milk drivers for high rentals.

As for saf, he clearly doesn't understand what's happening in the cases coming to court. He seems to think like the council that they can wait until an application comes in an then do a survey to deny licences. The Dundee case proved this is not so.

As for the taxi I drive, saf you're looking at the wrong guy. You've just proved yourself the real thicko. Why don't you approach me and put your case face to face, eh? Show me that you have some bottle and a real argument, rather than sniping like a wee fisherwifie on the sidelines?


Jim,you do drive the R-reg and if the stories are true it's because the T-reg was receiving a few scratches and bumps.
As i don't drive anymore apart from Friday past which was to get me out the house for a few hours, it means driving about the town looking for you.
So what i will do Jim, is when i'm looking to do a wee shift and i see you, i will introduce myself, but remember, you must ask my permission to record the conversation.
We cant go breaking any laws now can we. :D Jim,remember a few years back when the little yellow taxibuses from Fife where here,how long did they last?
The taxibuses that are here now are nearing the end of their spell, yes they will go away but no doubt something else will pop up offering the same service and they will fail also. :shock:


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Anyone care?

:roll:

I think those that pay for the bandwidth on TDO might. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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It's simple Saf.

If you have a valid point to make then why hide? I don't hide - equal terms.


This is the only place guys like you have a voice. You believe not a jot in anything you say and won't back it up. You need to hide for fear of embarrassing yourself, losing what, if any credibility you think you have . No one knows who you are and probably never will.

This is the Edinburgh taxi trade, it's a small place so why the secrecy?

As for the market its fecked. Yes, some guys out there will still make money depending on how they are fixed, relative to their personal situation but for how long is anyone's guess. You can be sure of one thing. It's going to get a hell of a lot worse before it gets better.

My bet is, next February will be crunch time for those financed up the ying yang.


50K for the illusion of "businessman" or should I say working for the council.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Now that's funny



People are allowed to have an opinion Garry even though it might not be the same as yours and if they want to stay anon thats up to them but it doesn't mean what they say is wrong.
Yes it will get a lot worse before it gets better but more taxi's on the road is not the answer and you know it no matter what way you dress it up.
Remember Garry, "only the strong survive". :wink:
Theres a good couple of years of this to come.


Yes, "people are allowed to have an opinion" and yes they can "stay anon"
but it only goes to prove they do not have the courage of their convictions.

Whether or not they are wrong in what they say is academic. As their beliefs will never be put to the test. No one knows who they are - remember. What they say counts for nothing - the nothing part is you Saf.
:roll:

This is where inadequate anons like you come to jerk off- you come from a community of handjobs looking for the same self-gratification. You, and people like you are never prepared to put your name to anything.

Look at fasties for example. It reincarnates every now and then but it's still the same old sh*te written by the spineless under a different pseudonym - you being one of them.


The truth is Saf, you've always wanted to be recognised for your opinion but could never pluck-up enough courage to put your name to it. You're a legend in your own mind Saf.

I can see your epitaph: here lies Saf - he nearly had an opinion - once


Who?

Btw, you "strong" you're having a laugh .... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Shug Dopey, may have had some balls in confronting Jim - nae brains but some balls.

The only trouble is, like the rest of you he hasn't got a clue as to what this is about.

The time to stick your head above the parapet was before the meltdown in the economy.

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Interestingly if saf is correct and the taxibus doesn't make a profit it will suffer the same axe? Wanna bet this doesn't happen.



i have been told that the service had funding set aside from when it started so it will be around for a wee while yet but if they dont want to run non profit making services i cant see it lasting more than 12 months IMO


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Interestingly if saf is correct and the taxibus doesn't make a profit it will suffer the same axe? Wanna bet this doesn't happen.



i have been told that the service had funding set aside from when it started so it will be around for a wee while yet but if they dont want to run non profit making services i cant see it lasting more than 12 months IMO


The councillors create the City in their image, paid for by the public purse. This means you pay, so they can ingratiate themselves with those in the Private Sector i.e. Consultancy firms and Contractors ... etc.

The very worst that can happen is that they don't get re-elected.

Meanwhile, their pay cheques, expense accounts and pensions are all paid for by the public . . . you guessed it .. ..

The very best that can happen, as a direct result of the "friends" they have made "working for you, the public" is that they jump up the political ladder or into the Private Sector, depending how their tenure works out - think Donald Anderson.

Is this what it means to be a public servant? You know, I'm starting to think it is we who are the servants, now what does that make them? :?

Chipper, they can make it look like anything they want. This is their illusion paid for by you.


How about some trams?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

What a great idea :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Do you know anyone that has 6 billion lying around?

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