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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:20 pm 
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only in britain...

nly in Britain ... can a pizza get to your house faster than an ambulance...

Only in Britain ... do Supermarkets make the sick people walk all the way to the back of the store to get their prescriptions while healthy people can buy cigarettes at the front.

Only in Britain ... do people order double cheeseburgers, large fries, and a diet coke.

Only in Britain ... do banks leave both doors open and chain the pens to the counters.

Only in Britain ... are there disabled parking places in front of a
skating rink.

Only in Britain ... do we leave cars worth thousands of pounds on the drive and put our junk in the garage.

Only in Britain ... do we use answering machines to screen calls and then have call waiting so we won't miss a call from someone we didn't want to talk to in the first place.

Only in Britain ... do we buy hot dogs in packs of ten and buns in packs of eight.

Only in Britain ... do we complain constantly that the government does not invest in health, rail, education ... then vote for the party that promises tax cuts.

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I hope she appeal's, as this clerical official has no power and as I stated only the yellow peril can fine them.
This sheit master can grass folk up all they want but where is the evidence or even a photo and the sheit was on there own


If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

Dominic the dim (ex) taxi driver from Lincoln was on the local news whining about speed cameras depriving him of a livelyhood. The wuckfit deprived himself, by collecting 33 points on his licence.

My advice to Mandy is to quit smoking. Her stress levels will drop, not paying out thousands a year for cigarettes, and £775 in fines.

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Thanks for the stern lecture Jimbo but most people must realise that,that is an excessive fine, £775, and of course everyone is just passing or doing some shopping whilst Mandy is having a quick ciggy, aye right!

Not a bad little earner I suppose. :roll:

It will just get worse and sooner or later even the Jimbos will be targeted for something, ingesting trans fats or some other unknown crime against humanity.


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Thanks for the stern lecture Jimbo but most people must realise that,that is an excessive fine, £775, and of course everyone is just passing or doing some shopping whilst Mandy is having a quick ciggy, aye right!

Not a bad little earner I suppose. :roll:

It will just get worse and sooner or later even the Jimbos will be targeted for something, ingesting trans fats or some other unknown crime against humanity.


Not stern, merely pragmatic.

The fool who speeds will be caught speeding.

The fool who smokes in a prohibited place will be caught and fined.

The lady in question knew it was illegal, and decided to flout the law. Her choice, no one made her do it. And not turning up in Court probably increased her penalty. She could have just paid the fixed penalty.

The Law is not pick'n'mix.

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jimbo wrote:
The fool who speeds will be caught speeding.

The fool who smokes in a prohibited place will be caught and fined.


Blessed are the righteous :lol:

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The lady in question knew it was illegal, and decided to flout the law. Her choice, no one made her do it. And not turning up in Court probably increased her penalty. She could have just paid the fixed penalty.


She could also have turned up to court and denied everything.
She hung herself out to dry by not going.

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Makes you proud to be British eh!

These incidents are the precursor to the civil unrest that is on it's way, no more subjugation of the British people by these dreadful human beings with personality disorders, it's gone too far!

If everybody would kindly renounce this harassment of individuals by the state, those intent on turning this country into some form of latter day gulag, then perhaps we may be able to correct their behaviour before it is to late! If it's not already.

The punishment is wholly disproportionate to any offence committed, the Clerical officers of this country, and there seems to be many, need to be taught some respect, I refuse to let these morons subjugate me or mines, they can take their nanny state,their political correctness, their diversity trained weirdos with their state induced schizophrenia and ram it where the sun doesn't shine.

Mandy, you were robbed, victimised and harassed because you are a working person, that is all.

£775! not one penny would they get from me, nobody does these jobs because they have a surfeit of intellect.

It just goes to show how far this country has deteriorated, why can't these people let us enjoy our country as a free people, a lot of us have worked hard for this country, many died fighting for these freedoms, remember smokers today, who or which group tomorrow.

If you value your freedom fight these people, they are no different to you or I, if anyone wants to detain or harass me in the street or while I'm going about my Lawful business then I'm afraid they will have a fight on their hands, enoughs enough!

Jeez, we can't even have a Police State in this Country, it will be a second rate version of one, a Warden State, start the resistance movement now.

No more subjugation of the United Kingdom or it's citizens, don't vote, don't give any of them the mandate to abuse.


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So the bar-stewards in all the UK governments who made this law, can carry on smoking at there work place, yet there are people loosing there jobs every week because of the ban, it was on a news bulletin last week that 25 pubs a week are closing, soon there will be none left as the smokers are now buying the drink at the supermarkets and staying at home instead of being forced to stand outside.
I dont know how many of you have been to a pub at a weekend recently, they bloody stink to high heaven of BO farts and p!ss, no matter what the landlord does to try and hide the smells, I would go so far to say they are more of a health hazarded now than before the ban.
Reading the story it looks like the magistrate is as brainless as the council or is trying to make a name for themselves.
She has to appeal this fine and it will get thrown out, so anybody from that area on here who knows her tell her to appeal


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There is now the other thing to consider here, when she goes to renew her licence will she get one ???????????? will the council consider her as fit and proper


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So it's really a form of extorting monies from the citizens of this country, either pay us the smaller amount that we are happy to extort and admit your guilt even if you aren't guilty! Because the penalty is much harsher if you don't play their game

Purely on the say so of some second rate exalted warden or clerical officer an individual can be relieved of £775 of their hard earned cash, to fight it will cost you a fortune because you are bound to lose because we now have legalised harassment and extortion of any individual they turn their attention to.

Littering has always been an offence as far as I'm aware so that is fair enough I suppose, but the fine should match the offence.

These people are often at the lower end of the intelligence quotient, that is the way it works in local government and all the other public authority type bodies, they are rewarded by giving them increasing amounts of power over others and they could never make it in the real world.

I don't know how it works in other places but certainly they are spying on individuals here and why should I or anyone else give their name and address and date of birth to another civilian in the street.

I refuse to go along with this charade , it's a subversion of the Law and with the quality of some of the council and public authority employees it wouldn't suprise me if your details were then used for the purposes of fraud or some other commissioning of crime by these people and it seems contrary to the human rights act.

Once you have removed everything from a person you no longer have any control over them, ain't that a fact Jimbo. :wink:


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The charge of littering should not have been brought either, she should have been given the opportunity of picking it up.
You do not have to give any of your details to anyone except a police officer, so if the environmental patrol ask you for any details dont give them its not against the law to withhold them


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skippy41 wrote:
The charge of littering should not have been brought either, she should have been given the opportunity of picking it up.
You do not have to give any of your details to anyone except a police officer, so if the environmental patrol ask you for any details dont give them its not against the law to withhold them


Except that as a taxi driver you should be wearing your identity badge complete with your license number and you would be in a car with a council plate with it's identity number on. Not exactly rocket science is it? :roll:

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The charge of littering should not have been brought either, she should have been given the opportunity of picking it up.
You do not have to give any of your details to anyone except a police officer, so if the environmental patrol ask you for any details dont give them its not against the law to withhold them


Except that as a taxi driver you should be wearing your identity badge complete with your license number and you would be in a car with a council plate with it's identity number on. Not exactly rocket science is it? :roll:


I dont wear my badge, its stuck to the inside of the windscreen with a bit of blue tac in plain view


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skippy41 wrote:
The charge of littering should not have been brought either, she should have been given the opportunity of picking it up.
You do not have to give any of your details to anyone except a police officer, so if the environmental patrol ask you for any details dont give them its not against the law to withhold them


Except that as a taxi driver you should be wearing your identity badge complete with your license number and you would be in a car with a council plate with it's identity number on. Not exactly rocket science is it? :roll:


I dont wear my badge, its stuck to the inside of the windscreen with a bit of blue tac in plain view


So again refusing to give your name etc would be pointless.

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grandad wrote:
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skippy41 wrote:
The charge of littering should not have been brought either, she should have been given the opportunity of picking it up.
You do not have to give any of your details to anyone except a police officer, so if the environmental patrol ask you for any details dont give them its not against the law to withhold them


Except that as a taxi driver you should be wearing your identity badge complete with your license number and you would be in a car with a council plate with it's identity number on. Not exactly rocket science is it? :roll:


I dont wear my badge, its stuck to the inside of the windscreen with a bit of blue tac in plain view


So again refusing to give your name etc would be pointless.


No not really grandad, when asked for your name it must be given verbally, even if its in plain view


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