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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:06 pm 
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I think what made it particularly insulting in my case was the night before the letter came, I had a job taken from me by a PHV driver who just walked up to a passenger that had asked me the price to Queens Park from Regent Street.As I told the passenger the price the tout jumped in with " I can do it for half that mate".
Of course the passenger got into the People carrier and it drove off but got stuck in traffic.
To the side of the now stationary PHV was a group of Police officers, a very rare sight.
I flashed my lights but could not attract their attention so I beeped my horn.
They came over and I told them what had happened. To cut a long drawn out story short they let the PHV driver go on his way and gave me a lecture about beeping my horn after ten o/c.

This is the attitude of the police force who do not want the responsibility of policing the touts.
Even the TOCU squad that was set up to tackle this problem are rarely seen in a place where touts operate. They just have road stops on exit roads from the West End. They turn up about fifty strong stick out like a sore thumb and the touts text each other and avoid the area they are working in.

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said Why not get rid of the problem by getting the PCO scraped and insisting that a new body takes over, reading many of the things that they do and some of there daft rules and the fact they wont do anything seems a valid point to get rid of them.

A very good point, but who do you get to replace them.
Still it would be a great morale booster to get rid of an inefficient bunch of highly paid time wasters.

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A very good point, but who do you get to replace them.
Still it would be a great morale booster to get rid of an inefficient bunch of highly paid time wasters.


Taxi owners, some of the owners have jockys working the cab for them so if you could manage to get some of them interested they might just do that. they would know where to send any inspectors, and more than likely have them out when they are most needed.


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They would do a better job than ex old bill I'll bet.

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London Jim wrote:
Yes Iam saying ( in myopinion) just that.
The two should be keeped apart and that includes the radio taxi's that shair their account work with PHV firms.

I fully support your right to fight for such an act, but is there really anyone who thinks that has any chance whatsoever? :?

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Yes Iam saying ( in myopinion) just that.
The two should be keeped apart and that includes the radio taxi's that shair their account work with PHV firms.

I fully support your right to fight for such an act, but is there really anyone who thinks that has any chance whatsoever? :?


Well If you don't try, you definitely wont succeed.
But who knows what you can get if you try hard enough?

Most London cabbies are up for this fight.
There are only a few who are too busy to help.

Up until a couple of weeks ago I was a Member of the LTDA. I resigned through there inaction as is my right.
I am, along with plenty of others, thinking of putting my faith in the new leadership of the LCDC. Because this is something that we can't do on our own.
Although we shouldn't have to choose, there should be unity, I would be amongst the first to sign up for that one.
By the way how did the strike in Brighton turn out?

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London Jim wrote:
Well If you don't try, you definitely wont succeed.
But who knows what you can get if you try hard enough?

I'm not sure EU law would allow such a restriction.

Thus I would concentrate all my efforts on keeping Boris to his words.

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By the way how did the strike in Brighton turn out?

The lads were let out of their temporary prison, and the rest clubbed together to pay the one lads parking ticket. =D>

A complaint has been sent to the IPCC, and no-doubt in time a decision will be made.

As for getting the number of plates and permits down, well maybe the tw*ts with the big gobs should hand theirs' in first. :shock:

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I think we are all fully aware of the impotence most enforcement agencies seem to suffer from when it comes to touting and illegally plying for hire but to be quite honest I cannot see any remedy for that in the near or distant future without new legislation and even then the problem will still exist.


Any new legislation will always need proper enforcement & to the cab trade that has to be the police, but they don't want to do it & in any case it's a low priority to them.

The cab trade is 24/7/365 & the police are the only enforcement that could match our working hours, so there is no other body that can do the job.

If you had Draconian remedies for touting & illegal plying (confiscation of vehicle with no appeal) then perhaps some headway may be made.

But I very much doubt if politicians have the balls to vote through such measures.

Let's face it, the cab trade is a low priority as far as they are concerned.

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London Jim wrote:
Yeh and the LTDA has 8000 arrogant, self opinionated nutters like you!
that's what stops the other 17000 from joining up.

Do you think your the only young cabby in town?
I'm probably five years younger than you and your the one talking like a pensioner.
These no way you are a real cab driver, your one of these nutters on forums who like to stir it up.
How come we aint seen any other London cab driver sticking up for you or your stupid statements.

I've Had a Look through some of your old posts and your definitely a trouble maker.
I bet your a mini cab driver trying to be cleaver.



Clever or cleaver?

Oh dear, is the slow down getting to you Steve? :wink:

I'd calm yourself down otherwise you'll be joining that never ending mosaque on the wall at the Heathrow feeder park canteen.

I'll lay a little bet you'll loose it one night, clump someone, then it'll be goodbye taxi trade.

Thanks for the 'young' comment though, but your a bit late. :D


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Let us all know when you break the 1000 out of 25'000 barrier then. :wink:


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London Jim wrote:
Most London cabbies are up for this fight.



Really? Are you now the spokeperson for 25'000 drivers? Count me and the other 8000 LTDA members out, as we can't see the 'fight'?

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I am, along with plenty of others, thinking of putting my faith in the new leadership of the LCDC.


All 900 of you?

Hold another demonstration (Number 7 / 2008) That'll show them.

Perhaps . . . after you've finally isolated the paying public, the young pretender will be done, unless his spat with the board of DAC does'nt rate a higher priority than his 900 lemmings. :lol:

Ask him (or you) about his special discounted fares, minus a third that he mooted on LBC a couple of nights ago.

I see you post at exactly the same time as Mr Andersonshelter. I guess you must know him? :wink:


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Oh dear, is the slow down getting to you Steve? :wink:



Who's Steve? no never mind I dont want to know.
I'm afraid you will have to carry on this thread on your own.
I dont debate with nutters.

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That's a quick exit, not surprised though.

Just like the young pretender who pulls your strings will do after he fooks up the LCDC and your fellow lemmings.

As usual the LTDA will be there to save face, and maintain the reputation of the 24,000 drivers who don't follow you or Davis.

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