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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:57 pm 
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There we go again,Davy Young 203020 what has he got to do with us having the right to sell our business?

There is not one of you WAV's who if given the choice would rather have a saloon, as for guy's like me the only difference is we are older and got our plates before all this DDA came about,so why moan about us the reason you moan is beacuse we have what you want a saloon!!

Young Guns Go fot It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So you want to sell your business.
Ok lets examine this.
What exactly is it you have to sell?
    Your plate? It's not yours to sell and never has been. It's a bit of council owned plastic that says your vehicle is correctly licensed.
    Licences are not transferable. The only legal way to transfer a licence is the way they do it in Edinburgh. Unfortunately you applied for your plate as an individual and not as a limited company or LLP. Lack of foresight there then, a bit like the WAV guys not applying when they could have got a saloon plate. As you like to say to the "young guns", you knew the score when you applied. Why should that be changed now? Just because you want to sell up?
    Your saloon taxi? Without a licence, it's just another high mileage ex taxi and not worth all that much. Your licence can't be transferred so the purchaser has to apply for his own. Unfortunately he needs to put on a WAV, a decision which you supported.
    Why should this be changed just for you?
    Your customers? They are not your customers. Almost all of them either hire you at a public rank, which makes them everyone's customers; or they phone the office whose services you engage, making them the office's customers. Anything else will likely be off your mobile phone. You can sell that anytime you want.


BTW how much did you pay for your business when you got it, aside from the licence fees?

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Old Hack wrote:
There we go again,Davy Young 203020 what has he got to do with us having the right to sell our business?



Who mentioned Davy Young? I work in Fife, not Dundee, and wouldn't know him from Adam. You say that the trade in Dundee are preoccupied with him, but perhaps it's you who's the obsessive one :wink:

As for the business point, the point I was getting at was that a business would normally be valued according to how good it was, but if 203020's service is as good as it claims (again as an outsider I have no reason to doubt this) then why are its plates worth bugger all when Cowboy Jim with his ten-year-old shed could get a few grand for his plate, assuming the council allowed sales?

The answer of course is that it's the plate you're on about, not the business, and the plate value just depends on council policies and who is lucky enough to benefit from the most lenient conditions.


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Been looking in at you Saddo's,why are you lot so obsessed with Davy Young and 203020


Take a look at the recent job advert in the Tele for example, yes folks, that's Davy' Youngs fizzog as Uncle Sam - and you wonder why the trade talks about him :oops:

And a few weeks ago you were mumping that the you had been "sold down the river" because of the tax reference numbers business, now Davy Young is using it for a recruitment advert!!!!

Of course, that has always been 203020's way of doing things - say one thing, but do another when it suits - remember the application for the hackney plates? Made a big noise that all the drivers should be able to get plates when they want, but when they won the court case Larry 'loose cannon' Duncan let the cat out of the bag and said they only ever wanted the plates for themselves, Mr Young swiftly wielded the knife and Larry was back slumming it on the ranks with all the other plebs :lol: (did they ever kiss and make up? :oops: )

So do us a favour Old Hack, I assume you are one of Davy's hangers on, so make sure you check your facts and your history before posting in future, it'll save you making a fool of yourself.

PS Thanks to the site for putting the advert on their webspace.

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that's Davy' Youngs fizzog as Uncle Sam


I think it's Lord Kitchener he's supposed to be.

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Dundonian, I know Larry Duncan very well, to my knowledge he has not driven a taxi for many years.

I may need to stand corrected on this but I am sure he resigned from 203020 and was never slung out as you suggest,try asking his good friend Davy Young, I am sure he will tell the truth.


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I think it's Lord Kitchener he's supposed to be.


No, I think he's supposed to be Davy Young :lol:

Thanks for the information though Gussy, I knew I wasn't quite right with that (wrong kind of hat) but couldna be bathered looking it up! Should have really put "British version of Uncle Sam", but I think most people will know what I mean :D

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Old Hack wrote:
Dundonian, I know Larry Duncan very well, to my knowledge he has not driven a taxi for many years.


Well I didna say he was driving one just noo - what's he up to nooadays onyway?

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I may need to stand corrected on this but I am sure he resigned from 203020 and was never slung out as you suggest,try asking his good friend Davy Young, I am sure he will tell the truth.


So he jumped before he was pushed or was allowed to resign in order to save face?

Come on now Old Hack, even on here you just say what ever suits at the time, so dinna come ower a' self-righteous aboot the truth [-X

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Next time I see him wandering about the town I'll ask him what happened, also think the comment about being a loose cannon is a bit harsh,as I recall when 203020 made their application and word broke on the streets there was a huge procession of guy's going down to the council and submitting applications, only to withdraw on they day after 203020 were refused, all the applicants were given the choice to withdraw if they did they got their money back,a good ploy by the council,if only they had went ahead and been refused, appealed to the sheriff as 203020 did then all these guys who are now driving WAV's would be operating saloon's, after having thought back to recall these events I can now understand why some are bitter.

So why is Duncan a loose cannon, he saw the opportunity was there did'nt hide it, loads of guys applied then bottled it, not his fault.

The other most recent one is the guy who was granted a non WAV licence,he used medical grounds but as I see it, it's there for all to expose all you need is the bottle to take them on,have a look at the full decison from the sheriff on this particular case,worth reading.


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Old Hack wrote:
Next time I see him wandering about the town I'll ask him what happened, also think the comment about being a loose cannon is a bit harsh,as I recall when 203020 made their application and word broke on the streets there was a huge procession of guy's going down to the council and submitting applications, only to withdraw on they day after 203020 were refused, all the applicants were given the choice to withdraw if they did they got their money back,a good ploy by the council,if only they had went ahead and been refused, appealed to the sheriff as 203020 did then all these guys who are now driving WAV's would be operating saloon's, after having thought back to recall these events I can now understand why some are bitter.


But that misses the point completely - 203020 were making big noises about fairness and that everyone who wanted a plate should have one, but of course that was all spin and Larry let the truth slip when 203020 had got the plates.

The reason some are bitter is because they were in the dark about the legal ins and outs, while 203020 knew all along that the plates were in the bag. Of course, it all ended up back at square one so was all a bit pointless, so who's bitter now?


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So why is Duncan a loose cannon, he saw the opportunity was there did'nt hide it, loads of guys applied then bottled it, not his fault.


Come on now, it was fancy lawyers and financial backing that did it, Larry would have bottled it as well if he'd been on his own, that's assuming he'd have had the bottle to apply in the first place!!

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The other most recent one is the guy who was granted a non WAV licence,he used medical grounds but as I see it, it's there for all to expose all you need is the bottle to take them on,have a look at the full decison from the sheriff on this particular case,worth reading.


It's not everyone who can afford to take the authorities on, and if you don't have a bad back what do you suggest - inventing one? It's not about bottle with 203020, it's about financial muscle and deep pockets.

Erik et al clearly have the bottle to take on the system, it's just that they don't have the resources, but of course you slag them off because their agenda isn't the same as yours, right?

Don't kid yourself. :wink:

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Mr Dundonian, I think your right, Duncan bottled it !!! That Davy Young has a lot to answer for, poor nae mates Larry!!!


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somebody wrote to the press to get a figure in print (badges not renewd)to stop all the arguing,494
http://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/outpu ... tters.shtm
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& you still see plenty of skanks that you know ain't paying their way !! :evil:


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Maybe the doubting Thomas's out there will now accept what Davy Young was saying in his advert about over 400 failing to renew their badges, at the time I checked it was 407 and even then some of the numptie posters still did'nt want to believe what I was saying.

Agghh how is wished I was WAV numptie !!!!!!


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old hack if you want to become a wav numptie dont worry you are half way there just put on a wav and you are complete,i dont know why you seem to be in favour of davy, you do know he wants doblos reinstated so he can get his 71 phs sitting on the ranks,doblos were banned some time back and doblo ops who forgot to renew their licenses were forced to put ph plates on their cabs,the recent council questionaire which had to be submitted by the 01/08/08 asked should doblos be put back on the accepted cabs list,now why would they ask that ?they already banned them due to safety reasons (only one exit for wheelchair user)there are still some who refuse to believe both the councils and the teles figure even though the tele is a respected forum of information :wink: ,the situation is more confused due to drivers who did not renew their badges still driving,handys flashed a warning 2 fridays ago about police checking badges (douglas area)suddenly a lot of drivers dissapeared,hopefully the office license that is due will put a stop to this ,the office owners forget that when a puntter phones its the taxi office that they phone who has the verbal contract, if a dodgy driver/taxi picks them up they will have a claim against the office if no checks have been done


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It has nothing to do with the taxi offices if operators allow unlicensed drivers to drive their cabs, only the operator will be charged along with the dodgy driver.

The doblo should never have been allowed on the road in the first place it's a death trap. I also can assure you DY is not interested in putting on doblo's,he is pressing ahead with more PH plates and I agree with him, the more PH'S the less WAV'S which will mean the Hacks will have more room on the ranks.

Anyway how is Eric ( I'll stab you in the back ) Thorson getting on have'nt seem him in the press for a while,must be lying low plotting his next move against the hackney trade.


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