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IMO the majority of PH that do the job for a living would continue in the Hackney trade, but not those drivers that use PH as a second extra money job .

New legislation would have to include bookings by phone (not even invented in 1847), Internet, any other future form of communication, by whatever means that the future may hold & I just could not see a one tier system without some sort of mixed fleet because of the DDA & the need to accommodate the 'bum first into the car' disabled.

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Neither can I Brum, I dont know why most councils insist on an all WAV policy
I belive a decision is due sometime this year on that policy and from what I have read the DDA want mixed fleets

I think it is under discussion as we speak; aka the Dotchin letter from earlier this year.

But how on earth do you decide which proprietor has a WAV & who has a saloon car?

Or do you say; age policy for a WAV 12 years, age policy for a saloon car 5 years, & let market forces prevail.

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That's the old chicken and egg question, but I think there could be a way around it, the councils should contact all the disability groups in there areas, and work out a figure of how many WAVs would be required.
Or even have a dedicated wheelchair firm using various WAV vehicles like we have up here, we, I belive have only 3 Wavs as taxis, the rest are saloons and MPVs

Neither can I but my money is on the DfT passing the buck to local licensing authorities because if they stipulated, "that in the interest of the disabled a licensing authority had to have a mixed fleet of hackney carriage vehicles" then it would mean London and and every other city that had a policy of wav only, would have to comply.

Europe stated long ago when their disabled access policy was agreed that the policy would be left up to each individual country to implement in their own way. Passing the buck is the only way the Government can abdicate their responsibility.

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If it goes the other way would London and the rest who have the stupid all WAV policy comply

A survey could be done on TDO the question how many WAV jobs have you done this year or since starting.
with a simple score of 1 to 10

They would have to by law.

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I would imagine in 28% of councils the hackney carriage trade don't want PH to be their equals cos it's all about plate value and f*** all else.

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I hear a rumor recently that the NPHA are of the view that existing law precludes mixed fleets operating under the same operator.

Maybe that bit might be left in the MoM minutes when they are published.

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When you look at this legislation from the position of the disabled which one day some of us might well fit into that category as time marches on then there can only be one solution and that's a mixed fleet. Therefore the decision of the Secretary of state is rather simple because she herself cannot discriminate against the disabled. Therefore the only option she has is to either pass the buck to local licensing authorities or take the bull by the horns and lay down the law as legislation prescribes.

European transport ministers have already agreed that an all wav fleet is a no go but they are leaving the implementation of the disabled policy up to each individual Government so basically the problem the Secretary of state has is coming to terms with how a mixed fleet policy can be implemented and will placate not only the disabled but also those authorities such as London that has a stringent vehicle policy?

Her decision is easy its the implementation that is causing her concern.

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I wasn't very clear in my previous post ( ), when I meant mixed fleets I was on about taxi/PH rather than WAV/saloon.

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If she passes the buck to the councils to implement she could leave herself open to legal challenges not only from owners but the disabled themselves

The way I see it is this and those in London and elsewhere that currently operate under a system of wav only should take particular notice.

It has always been my opinion that no matter what the secretary of state says or does, the ultimate arbiter of this legislation will be the accepted policy set out and agreed by all European Transport Ministers. If that policy comes down on the side of mixed fleets then in my opinion any local authority trying to defend a position of wav or saloon only, would be hard pressed to convince a court of law that their policy did not discriminate.

Therefore if the secretary of state decides to pass the buck then I have no doubt that the issue will be resolved in double quick time in the courts.

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What good is a plate value, if you can't earn a decent living?

I would be happy to pay a council for a plate, i.e. £xxK refundable on return, plus inflation, after I have finished my working life, provided that I could earn a decent living, working sensible hours.

Not a lot to ask, is it?

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