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So your suggesting the work carried out legally by PH is illegal then?

In my experience it is a minority of PH that flout the law.

BTW in god's country we (the HC trade) out number PH by about 5 to 1 (ish)



I dont agree...the country differs from area to area....why should a guy who works in a small village buy a vehicle that is only of use in a metropolis?



So these new taxi laws your on about....are they going to be so different to what we have now?

The Customer is still going to want to go home by the shortest possible route.

And want a driver who is reasonable proficient at what he's doing.....both of which are currently in either the acts or the power of the LA's to determine.

And to be honest...in a pretty decent post...the word Customer seems to be the key thing thats missing.

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The police already do, because they want the streets cleared asap. Once the punters are away the chances of civil unrest are no longer, so the police are happy for PH to do that, hence no enforcement as it would defeat their objectives.

But that does not make it legal under today's legislation.


PS Those chimpanzees are still dancing to the wrong beat & tempo for Riverdance.

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Their applicants attempting to pass a BTEC

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The logic was that if you legalise that is illegal then the problem would be solved

ps... I was led to believe that the monkeys as you refer them were certain Scottish drivers during the Highland fling

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Cos they have earnt all their money during the week giving the service customers deserve, not the service sections of the hackney trade can be bothered to supply.

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I agree with you Sussex .... the private hire are causing the unmet demand

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

In Brum it is totally the reverse. We are out numbered 4 to 1 by PH, & that is after 12 years of de-restriction. I know it is totally against what has happened in the rest of the country where de-restriction has taken place & nobody can put their finger on why that is in Birmingham? It's just a mystery; we have bucked the trend & gone the other way.

And because of that the illegal plying, touting & street hirings by PH is on pandemic proportions!




I did not mention restricting vehicle choice to WAVs. My view is that there should be a limited mixed fleet in all areas, but with mandatory colours & liveries for all taxis, for ease of recognition & enforcement.




Of course the customer in any trade is king. But any new legislation should throw away redundant sections or reword them, keep those parts that work & can be foreseen to work in the future & enact supplementary sections to the legislation where needed.

But I do think that new legisaltion & not a fudge & cobble-up of existing statues is neccesary.

On this forum we could start a new thread by copying & pasting all existing legislation onto it & start the ball rolling that way. But I suppose it would be never ending.

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Well I don't know where you are but PH sit around twiddling their thumbs at the weekend until midnight here while the Hacks (who don't want a single tier system) work the PH system until the clubs throw out then they go do what they got licenced to do in the first place, i.e pick up off the road.

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There is an argument starting to take some credence that unmet demand rarely exists as such.

The thinking is that at most times of so called 'unmet demand', the situation invariably arises that there are empty cabs on the streets in sufficient numbers that just cannot get to ranks where passengers are waiting because of the pure volume of traffic at busy periods that is preventing cabs accessing the waiting public.

So, is there such a thing in most cases of so called 'unmet demand', or is it that severe traffic conditions are a prejudicial & contributory impact & affect in creating this so called 'unmet demand' in most cases?

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It would be physically impossible to cover the demand for taxis on a Friday and Saturday night, but taxiing is not only about those few hours it is about the whole of the week. unmet demand must be measured over the full period to be realistic

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

You guys cant have deregulated properly.....tell your LA to go back and deregulate again....double deregulate if you like

Perhaps your standards for HC's are too high?



The problem is....who gets what?

And My cab is also my private car mentality....why does it have to be bright pink with luminous spots?



Perhaps....theres part of new legislation that are included in old as you know.

I was recently doing an article regarding my potential stress at carrying a passenger with the Ebola Virus....I knew in my byelaws I couldnt knowing carry a dead body....but didnt know it would have been illegal to carry a person with Ebola....and I presume the person with Ebola didnt know it was also illegal for him to hire or attempt to hire me.

Thankfully the passenger didnt exist...but he could do....and I didnt know the law.

But more seriously.....I dont actually think theres much missing from existing law.....perhaps a will to enforce....but will that change with the new?

The computer I'm typing into now is a new second hand one.....but even 5 years ago it would have cost double and been state of the art.....5 years before that it would have been unheard of and I would have been burned as a witch.

The point is technology moves and in taxi terms the law could be modern tommorrow and old the day after.

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when they deregulated the stipulation if I remember rightly was that they have to put on a new FX 4... I think the wording is still the same...... obviously a difficulty in locating the vehicles

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

It absolutely astounds me that PH in most cases want a one tier system, & even more astounds me that PH operator do too.

Looking at it from a legilimate PH operators viewpoint, what would a one tier system bring to them?

Answer; Distruction of their hard earned businesses in most cases & quite quickly too.

And the reason is that at the moment, working as PH operators they have 'control' over their licensed PH drivers & vehicles.

If a one tier system were introduced & all 'taxis' were allowed to ply, stand & take dispatch work on an even footing, previous PH operators would have very little control over their drivers & vehicles. The result would be that driver A dispatched to a pick-up say 3 miles away, could quite easily be flagged on the way, take that job instead, especially if it was a better job than the one he was sent to pick up, & stuff the dispatched job.

Multiply that scenario by X times a day & the operation now has a growing number of dissatisfied customers & very quickly these long established hard earned previous PH businesses would be going to the wall, because of they could no longer control their drivers.

There are always two sides to every story.

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I have had discussions with the number of private hire companies... and the answer to this is that they would not allow Hackney's on their systems

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

No the standards for HC are correct, but the standards for PH are way too low. No PHV over 8 years old on first licensing & then there is no age limit whatsoever.

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