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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:29 pm 
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Maybe a Co-operative company is the answer. We all chuck in and when the diffy goes out we all get back whats not wasted or paid out in wages to run the operation...........


pinch me I'm dreamin, lol :lol:

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Sorry toots but I admire the post....things dont change and the people dont change...from being a PH owner driver you become a HC owner driver...you still need a radio because its only busy on the streets a few hours per week...the guy you give your settle too wont change he'll get worse.

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I don't believe they could get any worse but I have great faith in the old sayings "what goes around comes around" and the "higher they climb the further they fall"

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I'll always feel that the fault lies more with the drivers than the company, the company cannot survive without the drivers. and the only people that can drive are licensed drivers, one three-day stop by all drivers would make the company listen

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Sorry toots but I admire the post....things dont change and the people dont change...from being a PH owner driver you become a HC owner driver...you still need a radio because its only busy on the streets a few hours per week...the guy you give your settle too wont change he'll get worse.

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I don't believe they could get any worse but I have great faith in the old sayings "what goes around comes around" and the "higher they climb the further they fall"


You still need work whether your PH or HC.....in the promised land of HC you'll sit on a rank....if youve no radio you sit longer....fair enough when the streets are busy you can do streetwork....but invariably when streets are busy radios are busy.

In my experience... not that poncy deregulation brummie cabbie has :wink: ...ph switch to HC....so probably no new numbers in terms of licensed vehicles...but where's the customer? Yep its the same customer you were previously picking up in your PH.

Of course the one thing that feeds PH is competition....prices may differ from PH to PH...so customers go from one to the other.....but hey....your HC fare is set by the council.....and youve a brand new cab to pay for.

The smug become smugger my friend.

I know of one circuit where the driver has to ask to go for a pee ffs.

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I'll always feel that the fault lies more with the drivers than the company, the company cannot survive without the drivers. and the only people that can drive are licensed drivers, one three-day stop by all drivers would make the company listen


I'd like to see a 3 day stoppage :lol: . I mean have you ever known PH drivers stick together. It'd be like watching ice cream in the sun, you just know what's going to happen. The staunch will fight and the greedy will feed...

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I have had discussions with the number of private hire companies... and the answer to this is that they would not allow Hackney's on their systems

And I know many radio companies that would go bust within weeks if they binned their PH. :shock:

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That is because your rules still leave an intrinsic value to the licence. Old licences worth a decent amount and new ones worthless.

PH is a cheaper and easier alternative for many drivers.



What do you think might happen if there was a policy for PHVs that required a new vehicle for a new PH plate & the maximum age for an already plated PHV was say 10 years?

Do you not think that PHVs aged about 7-8 years old might then have a plate value too?

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Perhaps your standards for HC's are too high?


No the standards for HC are correct, but the standards for PH are way too low. No PHV over 8 years old on first licensing & then there is no age limit whatsoever.


Ahh we have no PHV over eight....except for limos....you still got Nissan Bluebirds there?


That's not what I wrote.

No PHVs over 8 years old ON FIRST LICENSING, then no age limit thereafter.

And yes we do probably still have Nissan Bluebirds here.

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After giving it some thought.. there would be a strong case, in Birmingham for a driver to be required to speak at least two languages... multi-racial city... how is your Hindu


There is absolutely nobody in the world that speaks Hindu.

A Hindu is an adherent of the philosophies and scriptures of Hinduism, a set of religious, philosophical and cultural systems that originated in the Indian subcontinent.

There are however, hundreds of millions of people that speak Hindi or Hindavi, but I am not one of them. But I am fluent in two languages & can just get by in two others.

There is also one other language that I am fluent in, but refuse point blank to use it!

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..... Now if I were HC on our system I would be getting my monies worth because they don't pay as much settle as we do........... go figure!!


So on your system how much settle do your PH pay weekly, as opposed to HC?

For the record I pay £170 per month & the work quantity is reasonable.

But there is another Hackney circuit in Brum that charges £65 per month, but 98% of their work is accounts, & again they have a reasonable quantity of work.

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
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That is because your rules still leave an intrinsic value to the licence. Old licences worth a decent amount and new ones worthless.

PH is a cheaper and easier alternative for many drivers.



What do you think might happen if there was a policy for PHVs that required a new vehicle for a new PH plate & the maximum age for an already plated PHV was say 10 years?

Do you not think that PHVs aged about 7-8 years old might then have a plate value too?


Yes that would probably be the case if it's legal for your LA to do so, not sure about that.
The value would be lower than the same vintage HC licence though.
If they go down that road, expect an increase in out of town cabs working your manor (Berwick scenario).

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What do you think might happen if there was a policy for PHVs that required a new vehicle for a new PH plate & the maximum age for an already plated PHV was say 10 years?

Do you not think that PHVs aged about 7-8 years old might then have a plate value too?


Yes that would probably be the case if it's legal for your LA to do so, not sure about that.

The value would be lower than the same vintage HC licence though.


Why do you think it would be illegal for an LA to do just that?

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If they go down that road, expect an increase in out of town cabs working your manor (Berwick scenario).


Yes I fully agree with that. But you know what councils are; they never listen & rarely have a clue how a sizeable minority in the 'taxi' trade just love to 'duck & dive' & get around whatever rules, policies & obstacles are put in place.

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Why do you think it would be illegal for an LA to do just that?
I don't. I'm just not sure.

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Perhaps your standards for HC's are too high?


No the standards for HC are correct, but the standards for PH are way too low. No PHV over 8 years old on first licensing & then there is no age limit whatsoever.


Ahh we have no PHV over eight....except for limos....you still got Nissan Bluebirds there?


That's not what I wrote.

No PHVs over 8 years old ON FIRST LICENSING, then no age limit thereafter.

And yes we do probably still have Nissan Bluebirds here.


But according to your avatar your cab is either a FX3 or Beardmore....and you have the cheek to complain about PH? :lol:

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After giving it some thought.. there would be a strong case, in Birmingham for a driver to be required to speak at least two languages... multi-racial city... how is your Hindu


There is absolutely nobody in the world that speaks Hindu.

A Hindu is an adherent of the philosophies and scriptures of Hinduism, a set of religious, philosophical and cultural systems that originated in the Indian subcontinent.

There are however, hundreds of millions of people that speak Hindi or Hindavi, but I am not one of them. But I am fluent in two languages & can just get by in two others.

There is also one other language that I am fluent in, but refuse point blank to use it!


Next..... you'll be telling me... that nobody speaks Double Dutch.... when you know they do..... :lol: :lol:

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