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I love it when you get angry



I could never get angry at you MrA, it's not nice to berate the afflicted too much it may send them over the edge, and I wouldn’t want that on my clean conscience now would I? :wink:

Anyway MrA I have a little challenge for you, I'm sure as an ex 'pro -boxer' you'll gladly accept it.

I paid your website a visit today and I notice you film parked Minicabs from the safety of your moving Taxi from the other side of the road.

So, since you call others 'yellow' and 'spineless' I'd like to see you go up to the 'touts' and film them at work, then it will show all these (3) visitors to your site that there really is a problem, and your not just a silly old man who has a big chip on his shoulder.

I look forward to the results, I'm sure it won't be a challenge for a big brave lad like yourself. :wink:


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London Jim wrote:

No its not that its too muchImageing Captain


Repetition of that smilie becomes a bit boring MrA.
Glad you like it, though I have to confess the credit should go to Mr Sussex as I nicked it from one of his posts. :wink:

I see your alluding to the fact I am Captain Cab now, or was it Captain Taxi?

Be more specific.

Indeed I would love to have Captain Cab's knowledge on the Taxi trade, wit and good (?) looks, but alas I'm stuck with me. :sad:

Still another few nights like last night I can get some plastic surgery and some books to improve my lot. :D


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I'm all for a single tier system, with strong quality controls.

But this does not include unreasonable vehilce age limits.

The test has to be whether any vehicle is road worthy, age is irrelevant in this respect.

With proper vehicle tests it is the responsibility of any owner to present a safe vehicle for inspection. Fail the etst and and no licence is renewed. That's the quality test requirement.

Restricting vehicles to 7 years is fascism. It is councillors playing God. There's no legal imperative for it. It is entirely unnecessary.

This is why local government licensing needs urgent reform. Local government needs clearer definition of what it's powers are, and their discretion needs to be tightened.

We need to see proper standards of decision taking established, with case precedents being established so that there are benchmarks for councils and councillors to adhere to. This would bring fairness to a system that has become a fertile ground for councils "digging out" those whom they don't like - usually those who oppose their fascist actions.

We also need to see an appeal system brought into the licensing legislation, an independent arbitration system established, judged by independent experience lay people, to act as a barek on councils, at a price that is not prohibitive to those appeal draconian council decisions.

We should remember that councillors exist to serve us, not lord it over us protecting a faceless bureaucratic machine that exists to serve the careers and egos of petty bureaucrats. Councillors should be protecting us, not sticking it to us because they can.

There's much wrong with licensing. It's only our docile servitude that perpetuates its ills.

We have got the licensing system we deserve.


Errm calling elected councillors fascists aint going to help anyone.

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Although this was posted in jest by Mr Sussex, It is another example of the victimisation of the Licensed Taxi Trade that is being carried out country wide in a bid to bring in one tier cab system.

Would you share those views if Boris instructed the PCO to stop 100s of licensed London PH vehicles next Friday? :?

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Well after three years of Licensed private hire there still running at approx 7 a month. So in that respect it has been a complete disaster.

Could you please point out the stats on that i.e. a link or two?

That maybe the case for unlicensed vehicles, but I'm not so sure about licensed London PH.

And of course it's worth pointing out that unlicensed vehicles picking up from the street are infact unlicensed taxis, not unlicensed PH.

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And of course it's worth pointing out that unlicensed vehicles picking up from the street are infact unlicensed taxis, not unlicensed PH.


Aren't unlicensed vehicles just private cars and not unlicensed taxis or private hire?

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London Jim wrote:
I love it when you get angry



I could never get angry at you MrA, it's not nice to berate the afflicted too much it may send them over the edge, and I wouldn’t want that on my clean conscience now would I? :wink:

Anyway MrA I have a little challenge for you, I'm sure as an ex 'pro -boxer' you'll gladly accept it.

I paid your website a visit today and I notice you film parked Minicabs from the safety of your moving Taxi from the other side of the road.

So, since you call others 'yellow' and 'spineless' I'd like to see you go up to the 'touts' and film them at work, then it will show all these (3) visitors to your site that there really is a problem, and your not just a silly old man who has a big chip on his shoulder.

I look forward to the results, I'm sure it won't be a challenge for a big brave lad like yourself. :wink:


WTF you talking about I've never been a boxer, I might have been a bit of a pro in my time but then haven't we all. It aint my site either I may have written an article or two, but I am not the administrator.

Sort out your Avatar what a great set up. Talking to yourself is the first sign you know.
But I know a great doctor who can help you.

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Well after three years of Licensed private hire there still running at approx 7 a month. So in that respect it has been a complete disaster.

Could you please point out the stats on that i.e. a link or two?

That maybe the case for unlicensed vehicles, but I'm not so sure about licensed London PH.

Give me a bit of time on the figures I cant remember where I saw them but I am trying hard to find them. But I do have to work as well as chat all day you know.
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[And of course it's worth pointing out that unlicensed vehicles picking up from the street are infact unlicensed taxis, not unlicensed PH.


As for the gramma lesson PHC Licensed of Unlicensed there all Mini cabs as far as I'm concerned.

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And of course it's worth pointing out that unlicensed vehicles picking up from the street are in fact unlicensed taxis, not unlicensed PH.


Aren't unlicensed vehicles just private cars and not unlicensed taxis or private hire?


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Sussex wrote:
And of course it's worth pointing out that unlicensed vehicles picking up from the street are in fact unlicensed taxis, not unlicensed PH.


As for the gramma lesson PHC Licensed of Unlicensed there all Mini cabs as far as I'm concerned.


I think Mr Sussex is well correct on this one. They are indeed unlicensed Hackney Carriages, or at least that is how I read Section 38 TPC 1847, which states;

Section 38

What vehicles to be deemed hackney carriages

Every wheeled carriage, whatever may be its form or construction, used in standing or plying for hire in any street within the prescribed distance, and every carriage standing upon any street within the prescribed distance, having thereon any numbered plate required by this or the special Act to be fixed upon a hackney carriage, or having thereon any plate resembling or intended to resemble any such plate as aforesaid, shall be deemed to be a hackney carriage within the meaning of this Act; and in all proceedings at law or otherwise the term "hackney carriage" shall be sufficient to describe any such carriage.

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And of course it's worth pointing out that unlicensed vehicles picking up from the street are infact unlicensed taxis, not unlicensed PH.


Aren't unlicensed vehicles just private cars and not unlicensed taxis or private hire?

TBH I think all unlicensed vehicles are scum of the highest order, but I'm being a tad pernickety by pointing out that to be an unlicensed PH, the unlicensed PH must have a pre-booked unlicensed hiring, not a rank or flag down job.

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Sussex wrote:
And of course it's worth pointing out that unlicensed vehicles picking up from the street are in fact unlicensed taxis, not unlicensed PH.


Aren't unlicensed vehicles just private cars and not unlicensed taxis or private hire?


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Sussex wrote:
And of course it's worth pointing out that unlicensed vehicles picking up from the street are in fact unlicensed taxis, not unlicensed PH.


As for the gramma lesson PHC Licensed of Unlicensed there all Mini cabs as far as I'm concerned.


I think Mr Sussex is well correct on this one. They are indeed unlicensed Hackney Carriages, or at least that is how I read Section 38 TPC 1847, which states;

Section 38

What vehicles to be deemed hackney carriages

Every wheeled carriage, whatever may be its form or construction, used in standing or plying for hire in any street within the prescribed distance, and every carriage standing upon any street within the prescribed distance, having thereon any numbered plate required by this or the special Act to be fixed upon a hackney carriage, or having thereon any plate resembling or intended to resemble any such plate as aforesaid, shall be deemed to be a hackney carriage within the meaning of this Act; and in all proceedings at law or otherwise the term "hackney carriage" shall be sufficient to describe any such carriage.


That aint what he said,
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Aren't unlicensed vehicles just private cars and not unlicensed taxis or private hire?



if you are agreeing with him, why are you quoting some obscure law that say's different.
Unlike you to slip up old chap

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And of course it's worth pointing out that unlicensed vehicles picking up from the street are infact unlicensed taxis, not unlicensed PH.


Aren't unlicensed vehicles just private cars and not unlicensed taxis or private hire?

TBH I think all unlicensed vehicles are scum of the highest order, but I'm being a tad pernickety by pointing out that to be an unlicensed PH, the unlicensed PH must have a pre-booked unlicensed hiring, not a rank or flag down job.


Sorry Sussex I cant make sence of what you are trying to say its probably gone over my head mate.

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And of course it's worth pointing out that unlicensed vehicles picking up from the street are infact unlicensed taxis, not unlicensed PH.


Aren't unlicensed vehicles just private cars and not unlicensed taxis or private hire?

TBH I think all unlicensed vehicles are scum of the highest order, but I'm being a tad pernickety by pointing out that to be an unlicensed PH, the unlicensed PH must have a pre-booked unlicensed hiring, not a rank or flag down job.

So likewise a PH picking up without a pre booking is also an unlicenced Hack

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