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Are the really? even if licensed in another area?


It was meant to read "drivers and vehicles licensed in Sefton are under the control of Sefton licensing" but perhaps it didn't read that way?

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Yeah it didnt.... but now I'm confused :wink:

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Mr T said said, "anyone can open a hackney carriage firm and get licensed in Berwick with no control from the licensing office in Sefton."

the point I was making is that anyone can open a hackney carriage radio circuit in Sefton and not come under sefton licensing because they don't need to be licensed.

However if the vehicles and drivers were licensed in Sefton then they would indeed come under sefton licensing.

The point being that a license is not required to set up a hack radio radio circuit.

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Thats true JD....do you think anyone should be allowed to do that?

And further to what MrT said....if the vehicles and drivers are licensed in Berwick (for example) and the circuit is still purely HC and in Sefton.....who's responsibility is it then?

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And by the way....I'm quite enjoying this bout.

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Thats true JD....do you think anyone should be allowed to do that?


I don't see a problem with that because that has been the case for 160 years long before the 1976 act came into force and it is also the case in London as it is here. You seem to be of the opinion that anyone setting up a hack radio circuit is a potential scoundrel? You also seem to think that operators don't take down bookings or if they do take down bookings they discard them. The fact is, that in order to take a booking you have to write them down somewhere, unless you are Fred Housego and have the memory of an sd card? Therefore the argument about not keeping records doesn't stack up. That is why I asked you for evidence of those operators who are supposedly not keeping records?

You have to realise that the hackney carriage system has been around for a very long time and some of us aren't going to lie down while it is changed to the detriment of hackney carriage drivers.

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And further to what MrT said....if the vehicles and drivers are licensed in Berwick (for example) and the circuit is still purely HC and in Sefton.....who's responsibility is it then?


Hackney carriages and their drivers come under the licensing authority in which they are licensed.

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Thats true JD....do you think anyone should be allowed to do that?


I don't see a problem with that because that has been the case for 160 years long before the 1976 act came into force and it is also the case in London as it is here. You seem to be of the opinion that anyone setting up a hack radio circuit is a potential scoundrel? You also seem to think that operators don't take down bookings or if they do take down bookings they discard them. The fact is, that in order to take a booking you have to write them down somewhere, unless you are Fred Housego and have the memory of an sd card? Therefore the argument about not keeping records doesn't stack up. That is why I asked you for evidence of those operators who are supposedly not keeping records?

You have to realise that the hackney carriage system has been around for a very long time and some of us aren't going to lie down while it is changed to the detriment of hackney carriage drivers.


I admire your regard for the HC driver...indeed so much so that I am one myself...I certainly dont think there should be any changes to what a hackney carriage driver has been carrying out on a routine basis for 160 years. i.e. the ability to accept pre bookings by customers.

But I see there is a loophole....and I believe it needs addressed.


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And further to what MrT said....if the vehicles and drivers are licensed in Berwick (for example) and the circuit is still purely HC and in Sefton.....who's responsibility is it then?


Hackney carriages and their drivers come under the licensing authority in which they are licensed.

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And how does a licensing authority control its licensed drivers from over 300 miles away?

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And JD and some others thought that there was something wrong with the Pink Ladies :lol:

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And JD and some others thought that there was something wrong with the Pink Ladies :lol:


What does Pink ladies have to do with it?

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And JD and some others thought that there was something wrong with the Pink Ladies :lol:


What does Pink ladies have to do with it?

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And how does a licensing authority control its licensed drivers from over 300 miles away?


Control in what way? Spot checks?

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Graham.... you were invited to attend and didn't bother..... end of argument Trevor :lol:

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If I have to explain then what's the point


Well to be quite honest I think everyone will be wondering what I'm wondering?

Therefore you have one over on us all.

It is not the first time you have left us wondering and I don't suppose it will be the last.

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And how does a licensing authority control its licensed drivers from over 300 miles away?


Control in what way? Spot checks?

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Perhaps spot checks...perhaps quality control, perhaps mystery shopper exercizes?

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As far as I can see, you are the only one that is saying these things won't happen, nothing has happened in the past... and nothing will happen in the future... doing it your and JD's way...Oh you will do a lot of moaning that's for sure.....
Ps.. if anybody has any questions regarding the minutes please direct them to BB. he has volunteered to answer any questions
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We all moan, and that's the point of a forum.

But my beef with the last meeting isn't that the Berwick/Newcastle/Gladen issue is not important to those at the meeting, it's just that the issue doesn't deserve the huge amount of time it's taken up.

I ask everyone on here to go to their busiest rank tonight or tomorrow and ask the drivers there what trade issues/concerns they have. I guarantee that (other than in the Newcastle area) the Berwick/Newcastle/Gladen issue wont be in the top 1000 concerns.

The minutes of the first MoM indicated that other issues concerned reps at that meeting, none of them have been taken up.

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Look at it another way... 13 people walked into a room.... and 13 people walked out..... nobody killed each other.... that in itself was a miracle :shock:

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Sussex.... every single year association's and unions make approaches to the Ministry of Transport over driver safety and many other issues..... all they ever get is spin..... we are trying another approach..... the meeting of minds is in its infancy... it has to learn and grow..... but.. it has to do it right.... and that will take time..... :wink: you're not planning on going anywhere are you :wink:

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MR T wrote:
Look at it another way... 13 people walked into a room.... and 13 people walked out..... nobody killed each other.... that in itself was a miracle :shock:

Maybe it needs a few killers in there then to sort things.

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