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Considering the format of the thread was knocked out of kilter with the introduction of the jpeg I've taken steps to remedy the situation.

Below is the text from the original article.

I hope Travis will now edit his link to the image.
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The LTDA would like to draw to the attention of those members affected by the TX4 problems that the Association has been in discussions with Blake-Turner & Co., a firm of solicitors, regarding a possible Class Action against those responsible for any losses resulting from the suspension of TX4 licences.

Uppermost in our minds were the assurances given to us by Blake-Turner that:

1. They have the resources to run such an action both in qualified lawyers and financial wherewithal.

2. 100% of all damages (compensation) received will be repayable to successful LTDA members without deduction. (Blake- Turner will seek their fees direct from the Defendant in this action).

3. Should the action be unsuccessful then Blake-Turner will not charge LTDA members anything for their services (including disbursements).

4. Blake-Turner will insure at their own expense the LTDA members taking part in this action against any costs or expenses they might have to pay to their opponent in the event that the action were to be unsuccessful, with the result that again the LTDA members would have nothing to pay.

The LTDA having received assurances on the above points recommends this form of Class Action as the preferred route to obtaining compensation. Members who wish to act individually will, of course, choose to do so. We would also mention that Blake-Turner & Co. have been exclusively retained by Trades/Westminster Insurance Company to pursue their outlay in respect of fire damage to their Policy holders TX4s. We would urge those Members affected to contact Blake-Turner & Co. to record their interest. The sooner this is done, the quicker the discussions with LTI can commence.

Have you been affected by the recall action of LTI?

Blake Turner & Co Solicitors


Blake Turner together with the LTDA and Tradex Westminster insurance LTD are proposing to bring a class action on behalf of any taxi driver affected by the recall of the troubled TX4.for free legal representation and to register your interest call 020 7480 6655.
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captain cab wrote:
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Won't LTI have some kind of insurance against these claims?


Wont vehicle owners?

CC


I would think that it is unlikely that the vehicle owners will have insurance against their vehicles being taken off the road because of a fault from the manufacturer but someone may have underwritten the manufacturer against this kind of risk.

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It appears to me there is a slight misconception about the relationship between Manganese Bronze and LTI. To put the matter straight LTI is a subsidury of Manganese Bronze and although there is every possibility that the Coventry plant of LTI may be shut down, Manganese Bronze will still survive at least in the short term.

The reason they will survive is because of their partnership with Geely.

I suspect Managanese Bronze will eventually close the Coventry plant regardless of any claims for loss of earnings. It doesn't make economic sense to sustain a plant that cannot make a profit.

There are more twists and turns in this manganese Bronze setup than anyone on here or elseware has so far contemplated.

The argument is not based on whether they can survive, it is based on whether they make the right decisions that enables them to survive in the long term?

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captain cab wrote:
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it only takes one bright spark to think that liquidation is the quick fix and there will be no warranties on vehicles sold the day before it happens, no fire fault fixes and no compo for loss of earnings, LTi will go the same way as MG (i.e. chinese) and be up and running again in days....and viable


For the first time in weeks I agree with you.

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it was bound to happen one day.....


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But surely LTI's defence will be 'it wasn't us who recalled the TX4s,it was the PCO who suspended the licences for them'?

It's called being pushed between pillar and post,something quite common in this trade.

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Capt Taxi wrote:
But surely LTI's defence will be 'it wasn't us who recalled the TX4s,it was the PCO who suspended the licences for them'?

I think the fact that LTI are fixing the vehicles in a very urgent manner will lead a judge to conclude they are at fault. And any financial loss to drivers must be met by LTI.

Also the fact that the lawyer firm are doing it on a no-win no-fee basis is as good as saying LTI will lose any action against it. :wink:

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has VOSA issued a recall notice?


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wannabeeahack wrote:
has VOSA issued a recall notice?

That will come in about 6 months. :sad:

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wannabeeahack wrote:
has VOSA issued a recall notice?


From the paper work I saw, VOSA were involved from the start of the recall process.

In their last news letter, LTI outline how to claim, but don't say where to submit any claim. :?:

http://www.lti.co.uk/news/

It makes you wonder if anyone has asked LTI for compensation, rather than just turning to litigation.


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Will someone remind me how many cabs were taken off the road in London?

Forget that comment, I just read Brummie cabbies list and found there were 669 London cabs and approx 146 outside of London.

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JD wrote:
Will someone remind me how many cabs were taken off the road in London?

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1000 cabs. Vins 0001 to 1000. Mostly 56's. Some 07's and cherished plates.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/ ... ices-4.pdf


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TravisBickle wrote:
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Will someone remind me how many cabs were taken off the road in London?

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1000 cabs. Vins 0001 to 1000. Mostly 56's. Some 07's and cherished plates.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/ ... ices-4.pdf


Thanks for that.

The 300 drivers mentioned in the class action would appear to be members of the LTDA.

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JD wrote:
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JD wrote:
Will someone remind me how many cabs were taken off the road in London?

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1000 cabs. Vins 0001 to 1000. Mostly 56's. Some 07's and cherished plates.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/ ... ices-4.pdf


Thanks for that.

The 300 drivers mentioned in the class action would appear to be members of the LTDA.

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The firm claiming to have 300 claimants on their books is www.mckeowns.com

They sent out mail shots to the affected drivers. I wonder where they got the drivers personal details ??

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii27 ... can122.jpg

The Taxi article says the LTDA members are to be represented by www.blaketurner.com Of course they can go elsewhere or represent themselves. The small claims court might be the easiest, quickest route.

However, Blake Turner will represent you even if you are NOT a member of the LTDA.

Blake Turner have a consultant who used to be a cab driver.

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Terry Ferguson is a qualified barrister and heads-up the RTA claimant/uninsured loss recovery department. As a former Black-cab driver he has a unique qualification in bringing his experience to bear on factual disputes in relation to road traffic accidents.


I am in no way affiliated to the above companies. :mrgreen:


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TravisBickle wrote:

The firm claiming to have 300 claimants on their books is www.mckeowns.com

They sent out mail shots to the affected drivers. I wonder where they got the drivers personal details ??

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii27 ... can122.jpg

The Taxi article says the LTDA members are to be represented by www.blaketurner.com Of course they can go elsewhere or represent themselves. The small claims court might be the easiest, quickest route.

However, Blake Turner will represent you even if you are NOT a member of the LTDA.

Blake Turner have a consultant who used to be a cab driver.

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Terry Ferguson is a qualified barrister and heads-up the RTA claimant/uninsured loss recovery department. As a former Black-cab driver he has a unique qualification in bringing his experience to bear on factual disputes in relation to road traffic accidents.


I am in no way affiliated to the above companies. :mrgreen:


Here's me thinking the solicitors were one and the same. I must pay more attention.

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1 16/08/1993 R/1993/056 LTI Faiway Driver failure of electrical supply 23/12/1991 06/03/1993
2 25/01/1996 R/1996/001 LTI Fairway 95 steering output shaft failure 01/10/1994 28/02/1995
3 05/01/1999 R/1998/095 LTI TX1 rear brake linings may detach from shoe 06/07/1998 28/10/1998
4 31/03/1999 R/1999/015 LTI TX1 handbrake ratchet may slip by one notch Various 01/10/1997 31/01/1999
5 10/11/2000 R/2000/097 LTI TX1 insecurity of steering box To be advised 01/01/1997 31/12/1997
6 24/09/2002 R/2002/153 LTI TXII water pump pulley may shear from its boss 01/01/2002 30/09/2002
7 23/04/2007 RSPV/2007/006 LTI TXII AND TX4 steering control may be lost
8 23/04/2007 RSPV/2007/006 LTI TXII AND TX4 steering control may be lost
9 29/09/2008 RSPV/2008/017 LTI TX4 loss of engine power 200032 202942 01/08/2006
10 29/09/2008 RSPV/2008/019 LTI TX4 fire may occur 200032 206000 01/08/2006
11 29/09/2008 RSPV/2008/016 LTI TX4 brakes may fail 200032 203218 01/08/2006
12 29/09/2008 RSPV/2008/018 LTI TX4 fuel may leak 200032 201600 01/08/2006
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