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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:51 pm 
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Reference : RSPV/2008/016
Manufacturer Ref : LTI001
Make: LTI
Model : TX4
Launch Date : 29/09/2008
Numbers Involved : 3186
Build Start Date : 01/08/2006
Build End Date :
Recall Details
Concern : BRAKES MAY FAIL
Description : The brake disc to hub mount bolts may be loose which could, when the brakes are applied, cause judder and noisy braking. This could eventually result in the failure of the retaining bolts and ultimately the disc being detached from the hub.
Remedial Action : Recall the vehicles that are likely to be affected to fit new bolts with loctite applied and torque the disc to hub fixing bolts to specification.
Vehicle Id : 200032 to 203218


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TravisBickle wrote:
The Taxi article says the LTDA members are to be represented by www.blaketurner.com Of course they can go elsewhere or represent themselves. The small claims court might be the easiest, quickest route.

However, Blake Turner will represent you even if you are NOT a member of the LTDA.




But will they guarantee the independent driver pays no costs at the end of the action, regardless of the result?

My fellow 8200 members will be covered with their existing membership.


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GBC wrote:
TravisBickle wrote:
The Taxi article says the LTDA members are to be represented by www.blaketurner.com Of course they can go elsewhere or represent themselves. The small claims court might be the easiest, quickest route.

However, Blake Turner will represent you even if you are NOT a member of the LTDA.




But will they guarantee the independent driver pays no costs at the end of the action, regardless of the result?

My fellow 8200 members will be covered with their existing membership.


Probably not. Even lawyers have to eat.


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Has anyone got any thoughts on the blame factor?

The engine size is disproportionate to the compartment bay in fact it goes so far back that the displaced engine heat impacts severely on the driver inside the cab, especially in summertime.

The bulkhead had to be removed in order to accomodate the engine and all in all I wonder if the suspected rogue part would have performed differently in a more suitable compartment that presented less of a fire hazard?

My personal opinion is that the Engine makers will mount a strong challenge against any accusation of fault and if successful leaving LTI to pick up the tab via their insurance company.

I would just like to remind everyone that in 2003 LTI made a loss of ten million pounds, so large deficits are nothing new to LTI and if the chinese venture proves successful then such a loss won't be too much of a cross to bare considering the lions share will be picked up by their insurance company.

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JD wrote:
Has anyone got any thoughts on the blame factor?

The engine size is disproportionate to the compartment bay in fact it goes so far back that the displaced engine heat impacts severely on the driver inside the cab, especially in summertime.

The bulkhead had to be removed in order to accomodate the engine and all in all I wonder if the suspected rogue part would have performed differently in a more suitable compartment that presented less of a fire hazard?

My personal opinion is that the Engine makers will mount a strong challenge against any accusation of fault and if successful leaving LTI to pick up the tab via their insurance company.

I would just like to remind everyone that in 2003 LTI made a loss of ten million pounds, so large deficits are nothing new to LTI and if the chinese venture proves successful then such a loss won't be too much of a cross to bare considering the lions share will be picked up by their insurance company.

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IMHO the blame lies fairly and squarely with LTI.

They just cannot/will not do the R&D the major motor manufacturers can. There's no way a Ford or VW would have left the factory with the under bonnet heat issues of the TX4. A simlpe set of vents in the bonnet or inner wing would go a long way to helping it. The radiator header tank cracks with heat under there. :shock:

The VM Motori unit has had may other installations. Chrysler, Jeep and LDV to name a few. You don't read about them catching fire. Imagine the damage this has done to VM's reputation. It's not their fault LTI just shoehorned it in there and started selling it.

No. As with Metrocab and their dodgy alternator location on the otherwise bullitproof Ford Transit engine, it's not the engine makers at fault, but the cab makers and their lack of research and development. LTI may well go chasing VM, but as far as the cab trade is concerned it's down to LTI.


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Can anyone confirm if they are still selling taxis in the same condition as before and will just fit the supression system at a later date or are they making all the necessary alterations in the factory before shipping new units ?


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I think something has to give with this engine so don't be surprised to see it replaced in the not too distant future. Perhaps the engine makers will find a clause in the contract that enables them to stop supplying the engine, who knows?

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Update from LTI :

http://www.lti.co.uk/news/tx4-recall-update/


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Am I right in thinking they are no longer installing the 'fire suppressant system'?

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i had a phone call yesterday to book my TX4 in for the work to be done, i asked about a loan cab and was told that one won't be provided!

:roll:

I may try and put it off until the new year then as i don't see why i should either lose 2 days work or have to go and find a cab to rent.

fecking tossers.........


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acabbie wrote:
I may try and put it off until the new year then as i don't see why i should either lose 2 days work or have to go and find a cab to rent.

fecking tossers.........

Why not join the great class action, and have a few days paid holiday? :wink:

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I wonder if this class action could mean the end of the requirement of the out of date turning circle, giving freedom of choice to all owners who are forced by the COF to buy the tx range


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