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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:48 pm 
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police stopped me,found a stanley blade wedged in my rear tyre,and Vosa told me to arrange an MOT within two weeks otherwise my car would be liable to a prohibition order.
This despite passing a taxi mot six months earlier.
Now sorted but what an inconvienience,surely a reciept for a new replacement tyre would have sufficed.
Now wondering if I should have complained to the licensing authority.


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 Post subject: Re: spot checks
PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:25 pm 
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seaney53 wrote:
police stopped me,found a stanley blade wedged in my rear tyre,and Vosa told me to arrange an MOT within two weeks otherwise my car would be liable to a prohibition order.
This despite passing a taxi mot six months earlier.
Now sorted but what an inconvienience,surely a reciept for a new replacement tyre would have sufficed.
Now wondering if I should have complained to the licensing authority.

Never heard of someone being compelled to do a MOT outside of the normal rules.

Should have asked them under what authority they insist you did.

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you have to get the defect checked by an MOT test station i thought, is that what he meant, not a full legal MOT test.


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Roadside Checks
Every year the police perform thousands of roadside checks. Of the cars checked, a large number are found to be un-roadworthy and many drivers are surprised to find themselves paying a fine for committing an offence that they didn’t even realise existed - such as letting the reservoir for the window wash run dry.

The most common offences committed are:

* Using a vehicle in a dangerous condition
* Using a vehicle with faulty brakes
* Using a vehicle with defective tyres
* Using a vehicle with faulty lights

What Happens if you are Stopped?
If the police see you driving and think that there may be something wrong with your car, then they are entitled to request that you pull over so that they can have a better look at it and if appropriate, discuss the issue with you.

Upon stopping a motor vehicle, the police officer must tell the driver immediately, if possible, the reason for the stop – e.g. because there is a crackdown on not wearing seatbelts, there is an road safety campaign checking on defective tyres etc, or simply because they spotted that one of the brake-lights wasn’t working.

The officer(s) will probably look over your car and try to spot any other obvious problems. To give you an idea what they will be looking for, check out the list below:

Police Vehicle Defect Form

* No wing/mudguard fitted
* No speedometer
* Defective speedometer
* No mirrors
* No windscreen wipers
* Defective windscreen wipers
* No windscreen washers
* No horn
* No seat belts
* No anchorage points
* Seat belts not properly maintained ?
* Petrol tank not secure or leaf-proof
* Glass not as prescribed?
* Not equipped with suitable/sufficient springs?
* Diesel engine - excess fuel device not maintained

If your vehicle has a visible defect, or one listed above, then you may be issued with a Vehicle Defect Rectification Notice. This has replaced the old unofficial scheme where in the case of minor defects the police used to give verbal warning to the driver and ask them to put the defect right.

The VDRN scheme is voluntary. It involves the police giving the motorist a form, which explains what the defect is. The driver must rectify the defect and submit the vehicle for inspection by an approved garage. The result of the inspection is completed on the form, which must be returned to the police within 14 days otherwise the motorist will face prosecution. Please remember that if your car is considered to be in a dangerous condition, you will get penalty points and could face disqualification.


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wannabeeahack wrote:
you have to get the defect checked by an MOT test station i thought, is that what he meant, not a full legal MOT test.

No I was requested to take my car for a full MOT,and to take the pass certificate to the local police station.
Fortunately the MOT test resulted in no furter defects .


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What paperwork did the police officer give you when "requesting" you to take the car for an MOT?

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if you had a valid mot then he cant do that

did you get his badge number (it should be on your produce form)

then again, if you complain, you can expect a tug 3 times a week at least and i bet he finds a pack of white powder in your glove box and some kiddy porn in your boot


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grandad wrote:
What paperwork did the police officer give you when "requesting" you to take the car for an MOT?

It wasn't a police officer that handed me the paperwork ,it was a representative of VOSA,who accompany the police and examine the cars when spot checks take place.
The paperwork was underwritten by Vosa,entitled PROHIBITION NOTICE Detailing any faults(the tyre) and advising me to carry out the MOT.


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seaney53 wrote:
and advising me to carry out the MOT.

:-$

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Sussex wrote:
seaney53 wrote:
and advising me to carry out the MOT.

:-$

Sorry,telling me!


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VOSA can issue a prohibition notice that is marked, clearance by partial or full inspection. If you are requested to attend a partial inspection they can still do a full one.

example
http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosacorp/reposit ... 4930dfc52a

PG9
A PG9 (Prohibition Notice)
is quite different from a
VDRS form. It is issued for
more serious defects which
may affect the roadworthiness of the vehicle
or render it unsafe, and is normally issued by
a VOSA vehicle examiner. However, there are
also some police officers trained and
authorised to issue prohibition notices. If a
vehicle examiner has issued a prohibition
then it will normally have been issued
electronically and printed out. Police officers
complete a manual version of the form which
is usually pink. There are some occasions
when a vehicle examiner might also issue a
manual version.
Depending on the seriousness of the defect,
the prohibition can be ‘delayed’ for up to ten
days, which allows movement of the vehicle
until the date specified, or ‘immediate’, in
which case the vehicle should not be moved
VDRS and PG9 are the abbreviated names of two forms
issued to motorists who are found to have defects on their
vehicles. But not everybody knows what they mean and
some people might be unsure how to act if presented with
one. John Corcoran is here to clear up any confusion.
on the public highway. This can include
towing of the vehicle. The prohibition notice
will normally define the circumstances in
which the vehicle can be moved and section J
of the Testing Guide gives further advice
on this.
To remove a prohibition, the vehicle must
pass an MOT test, carried out by a suitable
VTS in the normal way. The MOT certificate
and PG9 must then be presented at a local
police station so that a clearance notice
(PG10) can be issued. Again, Section J of the
Testing Guide gives further guidance on what
to do after the vehicle has passed its MOT.

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